# Brock Lesnar - even more stupid than he looks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828 "2010-01-21T12:24:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/21 "2010-01-21T18:08:28Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Not exactly. You have to include ex-Navy Seal and _Predator_ co-star (we’ll leave out the conspiracy nut stuff, as the true depths of Jesse’s idiocy didn’t emerge until after he was elected). Without those, Brock doesn’t stand a chance. I don’t think that the ex-Navy Seal part is essential, but you’ve got me on the _Predator_ thing. Maybe Brock can star in a remake - we should be about due. ---
**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/22 "2010-01-21T18:11:11Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Those credentials do qualify you to be governor of Minnesota, so don’t deride them so quickly. As opposed to a former Saturday Night Live writer. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/23 "2010-01-21T18:12:10Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > Not sure I follow. > > In Canada, with UHC, shouldn’t he have been able to receive quality competent care no matter where he went? He wasn’t able to. (Unless incompetent care is the standard there, which isn’t a flag I’d think UHC proponents would want to hoist) > > And in the US, without UHC, shouldn’t he have had to go to a big fancy expensive hospital to get quality care, not just some crap hole in ND? Doesn’t seem to have been the case. Clearly all health care in the United States is perfect. That’s why there are no medical malpractice attorneys. No physician in the United States has ever misdiagnosed a patient. Which makes our expensive system and exclusionary system worth every penny. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/24 "2010-01-21T18:22:20Z")
I would like to hear the other side of the story from the doctors and hospital in Canada. So far, all we have is the word of a pro-wrestler, a self identified “conservative republican” that he got crappy treatment. Perhaps he was just pissed that he was not seen right away because “he’s important”, and some poor bum with a critical condition got into emerg. before him. Perhaps he was pissed because he did not get a private room with fresh flowers and catering. My point is, I’d like to hear what the actual situation was from someone who could look at the situation a bit dispassionately, and from a medical perspective, instead of from a “I’m a celebrity, look at me” perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/25 "2010-01-21T18:31:28Z")
Health care debate by anecdote is a pandemic of stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/26 "2010-01-21T18:42:33Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Health care debate by anecdote is a pandemic of stupid. This is well put sir. Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/27 "2010-01-21T19:03:08Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > In Canada, with UHC, shouldn’t he have been able to receive quality competent care no matter where he went? He wasn’t able to. (Unless incompetent care is the standard there, which isn’t a flag I’d think UHC proponents would want to hoist) Of course not. Regardless of who is paying for it, there are always going to be differences in the standard of care across regions, cities, facilities and even individual providers. UHC doesn’t suddenly turn healthcare workers into identical robots, and nor does it turn poorly run hospitals into good ones (or vice versa). ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/28 "2010-01-21T19:04:52Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > My point is, I’d like to hear what the actual situation was from someone who could look at the situation a bit dispassionately, and from a medical perspective, instead of from a “I’m a celebrity, look at me” perspective. Never going to happen (except, perhaps, anonymously). Officials from both the provinces of Manitoba and Saskatchewan have already refused comment (citing privacy laws). So, we don’t even what province he was talking about. **Jackmannii** : You are referring, I trust, to the brute I spoke about in my OP. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/29 "2010-01-21T19:18:17Z")
Couldn’t care less what Brock Lesnar or any of the other UFC/NHB fighters say or think about just about any social or political matter. But MAN that Brock Lesnar can BRING IT in the octogan! :eek: I was very happy to hear he intends to return to the ring. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/30 "2010-01-21T19:20:20Z")
Wonder how he feels about state athletic commissions. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/31 "2010-01-21T20:08:25Z")
From what I have heard, this story is all a big dumb bag o’ duh anyway. Apparently, the more competent US Doctors he saw prior to his trip had misdiagnosed him originally, stating he had Mononucleosis. Then after he spent a couple of hours in the Canadian hospital he can judge our entire system as 3rd world on the one visit. Of course, it completely ignores the fact he was misdiagnosed in the first place by several of the “Best Doctors” in the world. I’m not putting much credence in his view. After all its just the opinion of a guy who has a the job of being pummeled in the head and rolling around on the ground with another sweaty dude in a cage for the entertainment of other men. Just sayin’ is all ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/32 "2010-01-21T20:23:58Z")
> [@kingpengvin](#): > > I’m not putting much credence in his view. After all its just the opinion of a guy who has a the job of being pummeled in the head and rolling around on the ground with another sweaty dude in a cage for the entertainment of other men. > > Just sayin’ is all I agree … although if you’ve seen this guy fight, you’d realize his job is the pummeling, not the being pummelled. He’s a beast; a freak of nature. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/33 "2010-01-21T20:29:19Z")
He couldn’t get 'roids up there. That’s probably the real problem. That, and the lack of narcotic-level painkillers, just 'cause ya got a boo boo. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/34 "2010-01-21T20:30:12Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I agree … although if you’ve seen this guy fight, you’d realize his job is the pummeling, not the being pummelled. He’s a beast; a freak of nature. Fair enough… but they all eventually take a shot or two to the head and I figure that doesn’t help him forming eloquent, logical, arguments for or against UHC. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/35 "2010-01-21T20:30:52Z")
Isn’t this the same guy who, after a championship match last year, literally gave the middle finger to the bout’s sponsor, Budweiser, and said he only drinks Coors? And then during the press conference he said he was going to go home and lay on top of his wife? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/36 "2010-01-21T21:08:41Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Isn’t this the same guy … Yeah, a class act all around! But a fuckin BEAST in the octogan! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/37 "2010-01-21T21:10:45Z")
_Octagon._ ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/38 "2010-01-21T21:15:23Z")
That’s him. Wasn’t a literal middle finger, but a figurative one. It was a spoken slight against the sponsor, Bud Light. He did give a middle finger to the crowd who didn’t like his WWE-type antics. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/39 "2010-01-21T21:16:01Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Isn’t this the same guy who, after a championship match last year, literally gave the middle finger to the bout’s sponsor, Budweiser, and said he only drinks Coors? And then during the press conference he said he was going to go home and lay on top of his wife? That would be him, yes. Suffice to say that cogent argument isn’t his strong point. I do note the hypocrisy of those who say the HC systems shouldn’t be judged by anecdote, however. Seems to me the UHCers have been parrotting sob stories about people dying and going bankrupt for years. One counterexample–ill-thought as it may be–is just part of the dialogue. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828/40 "2010-01-21T21:20:46Z")
Except that dying and/or going bankrupt due to the inability to pay for care _is_ a feature of the for-profit system, while occasional shitty care is a universal feature of all healthcare models. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brock-lesnar-even-more-stupid-than-he-looks/525828.md?page=3)