# Brokeback Mountain on Ice **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 2, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981 "2006-04-02T21:55:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981/21 "2006-04-03T12:50:53Z")
Based on the title of the thread, I thought we’d be discussing the 2-man luge. As to the number of gay men in figure skating, I’d have assumed the percentage was very high, as it is for, say, Broadway chorus line dancers. But if Rudy Galindo (one of the few proudly, publicly gay figure skaters) is to be believed, there aren’t that many at all. [http://dir.salon.com/story/people/feature/2002/02/22/galindo/index.html](http://dir.salon.com/story/people/feature/2002/02/22/galindo/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@Cat\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Jones)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981/22 "2006-04-03T15:48:51Z")
> [@malory](#): > > Well, actually, they’re mostly NOT gay here. This is from Stars on Ice a couple of years ago- and I can recognize Kurt Browning (married and a dad), Todd Sand (ditto), John Zimmerman (the hottest one) also married, David Pelletier (married to his partner the lovely Jaime), I can’t pick out the last 2, although one may well be Olympic champ Alexei Yagudin (single). So there’s at leat 4 married guys here. Not all figure skaters are gay, you know! Dang you beat me to it - but thanks to **lissener** for the link as I’ve been wondering what the chances would be of ever seeing a repeat. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981/23 "2006-04-03T15:58:58Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Dude, you’re making an issue where there is none. If you want to pick a fight please take it to the pit. Exactly. It doesn’t matter if the show was originally “Brokeback on Ice” or not. **lissener** offered the clip for it’s entertainment value and the title was catchy. Why anyone would want to pick nits and argue over the thread title is beyond me. Why anyone would want to go and and completely out of the blue assert the straightness of the men in the clip is also beyond me and smacks of a homophobic attitude, as if somehow if anyone thought any of these skaters are gay it would somehow be _BAD_. Why the normally reasonable **Gorsnak** would then come along to pick up the gauntlet of an idiotic hijack is absurd. It wasn’t a discussion. **lissener** offered no “conclusion” to discuss. There was no assertion concerning the sexuality of the dancers or the original venue of the show in the OP to question or debate. It was simply a post to share an amusing, and quite homoerotic, while at the same time G-rated, video clip. > [@Gorsnak](#): > > I offered nothing as proof. That was my first post in this thread. It’s obvious that **lissener** confused posters; but _someone_ offered marriages as proof that these guys were straight, despite their sexuality never being mentioned. **lissener** made a simple comment that marriage is no proof of sexuality. I can personally attest to that fact. To go on and then threaten to pit him over his response is unreasonable in the extreme. We’re here to appreciate the drool-worthiness of the dancers, admire the routine, mock the host in the segment or if you will, critique the performance. Otherwise you’re out of bounds nit-picking the title or hijacking about the sexuality of the skaters. ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981/24 "2006-04-03T16:15:13Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > Exactly. It doesn’t matter if the show was originally “Brokeback on Ice” or not. **lissener** offered the clip for it’s entertainment value and the title was catchy. Why anyone would want to pick nits and argue over the thread title is beyond me. Why anyone would want to go and and completely out of the blue assert the straightness of the men in the clip is also beyond me and smacks of a homophobic attitude, as if somehow if anyone thought any of these skaters are gay it would somehow be _BAD_. Lissener titled the thread “Brokeback Mountain on Ice” and then hinted on the fact that the female skater didn’t get the performance. It seems to me that it’s perfectly within reason for someone to come in and give a little insight to the clip…which, from what I gather, was done before the Brokeback Mountain phenomenon. And then it was mentioned that several of the skaters are married and have children. This is a community forum. You don’t own the thread and I think anyone can post differing opinions about the clip or the topic. I’m not a mod, but I don’t think anything Mallory or Gorsnak wrote goes against the board rules. Especially the “don’t be a jerk!” rule. Can you say the same? ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981/25 "2006-04-03T16:31:36Z")
> [@Lil' Mahoney](#): > > Lissener titled the thread “Brokeback Mountain on Ice” and then hinted on the fact that the female skater didn’t get the performance. It was probably tongue-in-cheek. The clip is undeniably homoerotic. > [@Lil' Mahoney](#): > > I’m not a mod, but I don’t think anything Mallory or Gorsnak wrote goes against the board rules. Especially the “don’t be a jerk!” rule. Can you say the same? Stating the original source of the clip is fine; but the editorializing that came with it was unnecessary. **Gorsnak** ’s comment “Don’t you get pitted enough without asking for more?” is indeed jerkish. I’m not saying it’s an actionable offense calling for mod action. But it did need calling out. Can I say that mine isn’t jerkish? Yes. You’re free to disagree. You’re also free to take it to the Pit if you feel it necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981/26 "2006-04-04T00:25:04Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > Stating the original source of the clip is fine; but the editorializing that came with it was unnecessary. **Gorsnak** ’s comment “Don’t you get pitted enough without asking for more?” is indeed jerkish. I’m not saying it’s an actionable offense calling for mod action. But it did need calling out. My comment about **lissener** being pitted was in direct response to his more or less asking me to pit him. I didn’t intend my initial post as anything beyond polite disagreement, and was rather taken aback when he went off on me as if I’d attacked him - though rereading it now I do see how it could seem a bit snarky, and to the extent that it was I apologize. But I was and still am genuinely puzzled by his calling Jamie Sale “obliviously unclear” in the OP. It seems markedly unfair to her, so far as I can see, and so I questioned it. ---
**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981/27 "2006-04-04T03:59:53Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > It was probably tongue-in-cheek. The clip is undeniably homoerotic. Based on the reaction to it, I’d say the clip is both (male)homoerotic and (female)heteroerotic (plus just plain adorable if you happen to be a lesbian). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981/28 "2006-04-04T04:18:08Z")
> [@Charger](#): > > Nothing about it seemed gay to me at all, just fun and entertaining. That’s funny. I was watching it thinking, “It’s true. You can make _anything_ look totally gay just by strapping some iceskates to it.” Still a fun clip, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brokeback-mountain-on-ice/350981.md?page=1)