# Bronx man charged with assault after beating wife's would-be rapist to death with tire iron

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**Created:** [June 1, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233 "2016-06-01T14:14:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/21 "2016-06-01T18:08:16Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> He says he was attacked by a man who tried to kill and rape his wife. I wouldn’t have hit him in the head like that, the one blow probably knocked him out, I would have used the tire iron to slowly break every other bone in his body first, then only dispatch him with a blow to the head to save the state some money.

You do understand that would then earn _you_ a nice _murder_ charge. “I still feel he’s a threat” justifies hitting him hard more than once. “I want to inflict maximum pain before killing” justifies taking you away.

> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Maybe the prosecutors were trying to make it easier for him to get released on recognizance without having to post bail.

Could be. They probably think this is not a case to throw the book at but they do have to complete some formal steps, they can’t just shake his hand, say “attaboy”! and apologize for having to confiscate the tire iron.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/22 "2016-06-01T18:21:41Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Assuming the story is true, I think it’s extremely unlikely that they’ll get a guilty verdict. IANAL but would guess that unless evidence comes up that disputes Diallo’s story, the prosecutors will probably drop the case.
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> Not that my guesses are probably worth much.

On old episodes of **Law and Order** , the DA, Adam Schiff, would groan and tell Jack McCoy, “Make this go _away_…”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/23 "2016-06-01T18:32:40Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I’d dodge the blows as best I could while trying to take the tire iron away from him.

You outdid yourself this time, **VT**! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/24 "2016-06-01T18:32:49Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Detached reflection is not required in the presence of an uplifted knife and all that.

Just so we’re clear - the rapist didn’t have a knife.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/25 "2016-06-01T18:38:07Z")

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Shame no one thought to put one in his hand before the cops showed up.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/26 "2016-06-01T18:39:40Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Just so we’re clear - the rapist didn’t have a knife.

Yes - it’s an expression. It flows better than detached reflection isn’t required when you are confronted and attacked by your wife’s rapist who is escaping after breaking into your home.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/27 "2016-06-01T18:58:51Z")

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OK, my bullshit sense is tingling.

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> Mamadou Diallo, alerted to the attempted rape by a phone call from his terrorized wife, rushed home from his job as a Lyft cabbie and jumped in the elevator to go upstairs.

She is being assaulted by a man who broken through the door and beat her with a chair, but she has time to make a phone call. And she calls her husband, not the cops.

He rushes home _just in time_ to find the perp in the hallway. Then he plays whack-a-mole on his noggin.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/28 "2016-06-01T19:08:48Z")

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Assuming all is as reported (a big assumption), as a member of the jury, I would have no problem acquitting. Me? Myself? Yes, I could see that happening.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/29 "2016-06-01T19:09:15Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> OK, my bullshit sense is tingling.
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> She is being assaulted by a man who broken through the door and beat her with a chair, but she has time to make a phone call. And she calls her husband, not the cops.
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> He rushes home _just in time_ to find the perp in the hallway. Then he plays whack-a-mole on his noggin.

Other sources say Diallo was [outside the building](https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-charged-manslaughter-beating-wifes-153500428.html?nhp=1), possibly already [looking for a parking spot](http://nypost.com/2016/05/31/husband-charged-for-beating-would-be-rapist-to-death/).

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/30 "2016-06-01T19:12:26Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Interesting that his name is Mamadou Diallo. It’s eerily reminiscent of the famous case of Amadou Diallo, victim of an exceedingly unjustified [killing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Amadou_Diallo).

Thank you, I wondered why that name sounded so familiar. Though, there does not seem to be much similarity between the two cases.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/31 "2016-06-01T19:18:42Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> She is being assaulted by a man who broken through the door and beat her with a chair, but she has time to make a phone call. And she calls her husband, not the cops.

It doesn’t say she _didn’t_ call the police as well, and in any case she could be sure that her husband would get there as soon as he possibly could. As a Lyft driver, she knew he could probably get there pretty fast.

It’s unfortunately likely that the cops might not be quite so quick to respond to an assault call in a low-income black/Latino neighborhood.

She might reasonably have expected a much faster response from her husband than the cops.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/32 "2016-06-01T19:42:43Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> OK, my bullshit sense is tingling.
> 
> She is being assaulted by a man who broken through the door and beat her with a chair, but she has time to make a phone call. And she calls her husband, not the cops.
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> He rushes home _just in time_ to find the perp in the hallway. Then he plays whack-a-mole on his noggin.

The article says her sister was there with her and helped her fight him off, so maybe she was able to call at that point.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/33 "2016-06-01T19:44:30Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I probably shouldn’t express an opinion until more facts have been established.
> 
> OTOH, I am often struck by unseemly giggles by deadpan reporting like this -  
> Perhaps Mr. Williams couldn’t say anything bad about him, but  
> But apart from that, he was a real gentleman.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

In a follow up interview, Williams said of Idi Amin “that guy was a hell of a leader” and of Hitler and Stalin “they never hurt anyone.”

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/34 "2016-06-01T20:00:51Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> But apart from that, he was a real gentleman.

Clearly he was committed to his career as a criminal. Why, allegedly he even clearly announced what were his intentions!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/35 "2016-06-01T20:05:07Z")

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IANHJ (I am not his juror), but I would vote to acquit.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/36 "2016-06-01T20:20:10Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Assuming all is as reported (a big assumption), as a member of the jury, I would have no problem acquitting. Me? Myself? Yes, I could see that happening.

Agreed that is a big assumption.

If it happened as reported then I don’t see it getting past a Grand Jury. It may not even get that far.

However what can’t happen is that someone dies and investigators immediately take the suspect at his word and let him go. This was handled properly. He should have been arrested and if the investigation shows he did act properly the charges should be dropped. But there are a lot of questions to be answered first.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/37 "2016-06-01T21:58:07Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Other sources say Diallo was [outside the building](https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-charged-manslaughter-beating-wifes-153500428.html?nhp=1), possibly already [looking for a parking spot](http://nypost.com/2016/05/31/husband-charged-for-beating-would-be-rapist-to-death/).

He could’ve double-parked. But that’s against the law.

> [@Loach](#):
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> This was handled properly. He should have been arrested and if the investigation shows he did act properly the charges should be dropped.

If this had happened in a wealthy white neighborhood, Mr. [del]Diallo[/del] Plimpton-Smythe would never have been arrested in the first place. At best, they might have done a token presentation to a grand jury. The ACLU should be all over this. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/38 "2016-06-01T22:09:31Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> He could’ve double-parked. But that’s against the law.

Totally. He should have legally parked his vehicle, did a 360 degree walk around to make sure he was properly parked, then proceeded to walk at a safe speed and offer the rapist a cup of tea before smashing his skull with a tire iron.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/39 "2016-06-01T22:51:42Z")

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> [@SmellMyWort](#):
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> The article says her sister was there with her and helped her fight him off, so maybe she was able to call at that point.

One of the articles in **Bone’s** links says she was able to grab her cell phone, and the first number that came up was her husband’s, so she called him and told him to call the cops.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronx-man-charged-with-assault-after-beating-wifes-would-be-rapist-to-death-with-tire-iron/756233/40 "2016-06-02T01:46:07Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> However what can’t happen is that someone dies and investigators immediately take the suspect at his word and let him go. This was handled properly. He should have been arrested and if the investigation shows he did act properly the charges should be dropped. But there are a lot of questions to be answered first.

Exactly. _“The reason I killed the guy is because he was raping my wife”_ is not a statement that should be automatically taken at face value. I’m not saying I believe it’s false in this case, mind you, just that it ought to be subjected to a proper investigation.

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