# Bronze medal Athlete fidgets and fusses during national anthem **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** olympic-sports-track\ **Created:** [June 28, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174 "2021-06-28T12:04:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/141 "2021-06-30T12:59:45Z")
I don’t think she’s really playing the victim here. She displayed a few moments of discomfort. She’s not the one going on for days about how butt-hurt they are about her few moments of discomfort. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/142 "2021-06-30T13:00:37Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Why are you taking her reaction personally? Uh it’s a topic of discussion. Nothing is personal hete. That might be a fun and irreverent topic for CA to discuss? ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/143 "2021-06-30T13:06:55Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > She’s not the one going on for days about how butt-hurt they are about her few moments of discomfort. Actually it’s some of y’all getting butt hurt because you have issue with my melanin challenged privilege in bringing it up. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/144 "2021-06-30T13:10:36Z")
Not really, just wondering why people have to keep demeaning and insulting her. Sounds pretty hateful, as though she did something personally against you. If she didn’t do something personally against you, then continuing to demean and insult her is pretty odd. If she did do something personally against you, what exactly was it? ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/145 "2021-06-30T13:12:43Z")
Quoteth the the hateth Brat? Butthurt? Prima Donna? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/146 "2021-06-30T13:15:16Z")
Yes, that is some of the demeaning and insulting language that has been used in reaction to her showing some level of discomfort. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/147 "2021-06-30T13:24:43Z")
I just see OP having a hissy fit to be honest, not sure there is much to discuss here. It’s a shame we have such bratty posting. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/148 "2021-06-30T13:35:33Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I don’t think she’s really playing the victim here. > > She displayed a few moments of discomfort. > > She’s not the one going on for days about how butt-hurt they are about her few moments of discomfort. Indeed. Like I mentioned upthread, she doesn’t seem to be the one triggered here. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/149 "2021-06-30T13:57:47Z")
If it weren’t for those damned coincidental technical issues… > **[A Veteran Tried to Credit Black Americans on Memorial Day. His Mic Got Muted....](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/03/us/american-legion-ohio-mic-cut-speech.html)** > > Retired Army Lt. Col. Barnard Kemter was speaking at an American Legion service in Hudson, Ohio, on Monday when he was intentionally silenced. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/150 "2021-06-30T14:04:30Z")
With the number of non-white athletes competing in track, I would have to assume that a racist in the sound booth would be causing a lot more problems than just mis-timing the playing of the anthem for a relatively unknown athlete in a less popular track event. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/151 "2021-06-30T14:08:08Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I don’t think she’s really playing the victim here. > > She displayed a few moments of discomfort. > > She’s not the one going on for days about how butt-hurt they are about her few moments of discomfort. > > Indeed. Like I mentioned upthread, she doesn’t seem to be the one triggered here. She certainly acted like she was triggered, and her belief that it was somehow done to agitate her rather than a simple mistake is a stretch. I will note that she has since said that playing the national anthem is per se disrespectful to black people. All of which, given this country’s history, is a supportable position to take. She is absolutely within her rights to do as she did, and the reaction to it by the right is, as always, overblown whining used to stir up more hate and animosity by stupid, mostly white, people against black people and anyone who disagrees with the right wing. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/152 "2021-06-30T14:18:13Z")
> [@chela](#): > > If your raison d etre is to shine a light on the plight of your people but then you play the victim because of a mistimed anthem yeah that’s a butt hurt prima Donna on display. If you dominate your sport and won a gold medal, you get the right to express yourself on TV before an audience of billions of people. If you have no significant life achievements, then you have to watch her and cry about it anonymously on a dying message board. That’s how that works. It’s not hard to understand. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/153 "2021-06-30T14:27:01Z")
> [@chela](#): > > What’s a medal mean to a country when the athlete you sent to win it feels disrespected on the podium while your country’s anthem plays. Who cares? It’s her medal, not yours or mine If you want to celebrate the US victory in the hammer throw, then you do it on the hammer-thrower’s terms. She’s the one who did the work and earned it. Don’t like it? Doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/154 "2021-06-30T14:30:23Z")
I’ll celebrate with the athlete who took the top tier at the podium not the the one who was on the bottom off to the side with her back turned. > **[Video: DeAnna Price breaks multiple records in hammer throw final](https://onherturf.nbcsports.com/2021/06/27/video-deanna-price-breaks-multiple-records-in-hammer-throw-final/)** > > DeAnna Price only needed one good throw to make her second Olympic team, but she went above and beyond at U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/155 "2021-06-30T14:32:42Z")
> [@chela](#): > > I’ll celebrate with the athlete who took the top tier at the podium not the the one who was on the bottom off to the side with her back turned. Who do you believe cares? ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/156 "2021-06-30T14:33:43Z")
Regardless of the place on the podium, is the podium a place to stand up against political and social policies the athlete doesn’t agree with? There are a huge range of stances on these issues and the athletes have a wide range of positions on them. Would it be appropriate for each athlete to be on the stand supporting or protesting whatever policies they personally disagree with? And keep in mind that some of the athletes will be supporting policies that you very much oppose. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/157 "2021-06-30T14:35:52Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Regardless of the place on the podium, is the podium a place to stand up against political and social policies the athlete doesn’t agree with? There are a huge range of stances on these issues and the athletes have a wide range of positions on them. Would it be appropriate for each athlete to be on the stand supporting or protesting whatever policies they personally disagree with? yes > [@](#): > > And keep in mind that some of the athletes will be supporting policies that you very much oppose. _yawn_ ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/158 "2021-06-30T14:45:28Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > If it weren’t for those damned coincidental technical issues… Eh. It happens. > **[Principal tries to stop speech by valedictorian after he brings up his queer...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/new-jersey-valedictorian-speech-queer-b1873789.html)** > > Bryce Dershem continued to speak from memory as his original speech was taken away and his microphone cut off ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/159 "2021-06-30T15:03:22Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Regardless of the place on the podium, is the podium a place to stand up against political and social policies the athlete doesn’t agree with? She has stated that the primary reason she remains in the sport is that it gives her this voice, so yes, it is exactly the right place for her to do it. > [@filmore](#): > > There are a huge range of stances on these issues and the athletes have a wide range of positions on them. To me it appears to boil down mostly to protesting bigotry. I find myself okay with people speaking out against that. > [@filmore](#): > > Would it be appropriate for each athlete to be on the stand supporting or protesting whatever policies they personally disagree with? Sure, as that’s about the only place they’ll have that visible of a platform. > [@filmore](#): > > And keep in mind that some of the athletes will be supporting policies that you very much oppose. Seriously? Sure, if someone wants to use the podium to display their Nazi salute in protest of the decreasing white population, I’m not going to call them out for protesting, but I’ll certainly call them Nazis. Right now, all of the protesting that I’ve seen is around bigotry and the resulting injustices around that, but I’ll keep supporting any hypothetical protests you want us imagine. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/160 "2021-06-30T15:07:40Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Why are you taking her reaction personally? What? How did you reach that conclusion? I never heard of her prior to yesterday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174.md?page=9)