# Brooklyn 99 - does it get better?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-99-does-it-get-better/848201>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 19, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-99-does-it-get-better/848201 "2020-02-19T23:41:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![tullsterx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tullsterx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tullsterx)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-99-does-it-get-better/848201/21 "2020-02-20T16:05:24Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I mean, I like it, it’s just that Peralta is such a over-priviledged white guy in this show (s1, 10 episodes in) that it’s painful to watch.
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> All the other characters are pretty good, however, but Jake? Sadly, he’s the focus of the show and is very little other than irritating.
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> So… does he get better? Is there a tone shift in S2 that I can look forward to? Or should I just start another program?

No, it doesn’t get better. It’s been a fairly consistent show tone-wise. If you don’t like it 10 episodes in, I think you should move on.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-99-does-it-get-better/848201/22 "2020-02-20T20:49:05Z")

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There’s a lesser emphasis on Peralta as the seasons progress and the other characters are developed more, but he’s still the focal character of the show, and likely always will be.

If you’re waiting for a point where Jake fades into the background, you’re out of luck.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-99-does-it-get-better/848201/23 "2020-02-20T21:15:22Z")

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Same as everyone else said. I like it.  
I thought last season the weakest yet, but have been quite amused by the 1st 2 this season.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-99-does-it-get-better/848201/24 "2020-02-20T21:47:13Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> There’s a lesser emphasis on Peralta as the seasons progress and the other characters are developed more, but he’s still the focal character of the show, and likely always will be.
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> If you’re waiting for a point where Jake fades into the background, you’re out of luck.

The main plot usually focuses on Jake and the B plot usually involves some of the other characters. That doesn’t detract from the fact that Andre Braugher as Captain Raymond Holt is a national treasure.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-99-does-it-get-better/848201/25 "2020-02-20T22:13:26Z")

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It gets better, but better in the same way. It doesn’t get different. If you don’t like it after 10 episodes you’re not likely to like it later.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-99-does-it-get-better/848201/26 "2020-02-20T22:20:28Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I find it ‘pretty good’ - a lot of the writing is good, the other characters far more relatable, and there is at least one laugh-out-loud moment per episode.
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> It’s the Peralta shenanigans which are wearing out my welcome. It’s just too f-in much. Chaining himself to Holt and throwing away the key. Causing everyone to lose their weekend because he ‘knows’ someone is guilty and detained him prior to any evidence being gathered. That whole, silly ‘fight with the firemen’ episode.
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> Yeah, yeah, I “really should relax”, but still- there’s suspension of disbelief and then there’s eye-rolling, and Peralta’s antics put me on the side of eye-rolling.

You say you’ve seen 10 episodes, but the one where Jake chained himself to Holt was Episode 11, so I’ll assume that’s how far you got. OK, try this: the next two episodes, “The Pontiac Bandit” and “The Bet” both feature some character development for Jake, and IMHO they’re the point where he starts getting a bit less obnoxious and a bit more self-aware. They’re also very funny episodes. Watch them, and if you still don’t like the show, feel free to walk away with our blessing.

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-99-does-it-get-better/848201/27 "2020-02-21T00:12:13Z")

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It doesn’t help that Andy Samberg has television’s most punchable face.

“Ooh quick, get the sword out! I want to cut his head off!”

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