# Brooklyn Nine-Nine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 22, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433 "2014-01-22T04:21:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/41 "2014-01-25T17:41:31Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> _Trophy Wife_ is also pretty good. Check it out if you haven’t.

I really like _Trophy Wife_.

I watched a few episodes of _Brooklyn Nine-Nine_ and it just didn’t work for me. I can’t articulate why. I think it wasn’t broad enough. I’m looking at these cops, who are supposed to be working, and they’re just fucking off. There’s a fine line between _Barney Miller_ and _NYPD Blue_, and to me, this show wasn’t straddling it very well.

I didn’t like any of the characters, except for Braugher.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/42 "2014-01-26T06:29:02Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> I watched a few episodes of _Brooklyn Nine-Nine_ and it just didn’t work for me. I can’t articulate why. I think it wasn’t broad enough. I’m looking at these cops, who are supposed to be working, and they’re just fucking off. There’s a fine line between _Barney Miller_ and _NYPD Blue_, and to me, this show wasn’t straddling it very well.

I have to disagree. One of the reasons I like the show is because it’s been shown that these detectives are actually competent at solving crimes.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/43 "2014-01-26T17:43:26Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I have to disagree. One of the reasons I like the show is because it’s been shown that these detectives are actually competent at solving crimes.

I wasn’t seeing that in the first few episodes. Maybe I should have kept watching.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/44 "2014-01-26T20:11:28Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> I wasn’t seeing that in the first few episodes. Maybe I should have kept watching.

Really? Not to get all retroactive-spoilery on you, but the first episode ended with our heroes capturing the killer, and the second – well, admittedly, the sitcom plot is that Peralta’s mouth gets him tasked with catching a local graffiti artist, but the gag isn’t that he fails; it’s that he succeeds by heavily planning a serious-business stakeout.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/45 "2014-01-26T20:43:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Looking at the ratings, I notice that _Brooklyn Nine Nine_ has significantly better numbers than _Dads_ - and all the shows they’re up against are hour long shows. That means people are either watching the first half of another show or leaving their TV off before watching _Brooklyn Nine Nine_ at 8:30. They’re making a conscious decision to not watch _Dads_.

I record the shows I like…including Brooklyn 99 and one of the hour long shows they’re up against, and then watch them whenever I get around to it.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/46 "2014-01-26T20:55:48Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Really? Not to get all retroactive-spoilery on you, but the first episode ended with our heroes capturing the killer, and the second – well, admittedly, the sitcom plot is that Peralta’s mouth gets him tasked with catching a local graffiti artist, but the gag isn’t that he fails; it’s that he succeeds by heavily planning a serious-business stakeout.

But wasn’t there a lot of silliness involved?

I said earlier that I couldn’t articulate why this show doesn’t work for me. I have no problem admitting that I just don’t get it. I have the same problem with satire and parodies. I’m not a deep thinker. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/47 "2014-01-27T05:01:11Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> But wasn’t there a lot of silliness involved?

There is a lot of silliness involved. But the point is that they’re still good cops underneath the silliness.

There’s a comparison to MASH. Hawkeye and Trapper John and BJ may have been goofballs but they took their medical duties seriously.

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**Author:** ![Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walker_in_Eternity)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/48 "2014-01-27T09:27:47Z")

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We’ve only had the first two episodes in the UK on Freeview.

Episode 1 was very funny, episode 2 barely raised a chuckle.

Does it improve? I plan to give it one more try before abandoning it.

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/49 "2014-01-27T10:26:33Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> But wasn’t there a lot of silliness involved?
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> I said earlier that I couldn’t articulate why this show doesn’t work for me. I have no problem admitting that I just don’t get it. I have the same problem with satire and parodies. I’m not a deep thinker. 🙂

Yes, it’s silly, screwball comedy. If that’s not your bag, that won’t change.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/50 "2014-01-27T14:57:23Z")

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> [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](#):
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> We’ve only had the first two episodes in the UK on Freeview.
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> Episode 1 was very funny, episode 2 barely raised a chuckle.
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> Does it improve? I plan to give it one more try before abandoning it.

Hard to say. I don’t think there was anything drastically different between the first and second episodes. I didn’t care much for the tagger nor the psychic storylines but I wouldn’t say that it was unfunny enough to be a dealbreaker. I do think the second episode was not the finest one but as with all things in cafe society, YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/51 "2014-01-27T20:16:27Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I love this show. Andre Braugher kills me in almost every scene, and the entire supporting cast is really great - especially Terry Crews, Stephanie Beatriz, and Joe Lo Truglio. It’s funny every week and it’s very silly without being stupid.

Thank you. This completely sums up the show for me. Appointment viewing every week.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/52 "2014-01-27T20:36:38Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> There is a lot of silliness involved. But the point is that they’re still good cops underneath the silliness.
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> There’s a comparison to MASH. Hawkeye and Trapper John and BJ may have been goofballs but they took their medical duties seriously.

The epitome of this is probably the Thanksgiving episode, where our heroes pretend to be – well, detectives with cool-sounding names who explain their poorly-written backstories to suspects at the drop of a hat, complete with Peralta singing their theme song as if they were characters in, y’know, a buddy-cop show.

Of course they solve the heist by competently reviewing the security-camera footage and questioning the right people; the only question is whether they’ll do it without breaking character.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/53 "2014-01-28T06:39:45Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Of course they solve the heist by competently reviewing the security-camera footage and questioning the right people; the only question is whether they’ll do it without breaking character.

They also showed it at the mahjong club. Yes, Peralta was goofing off with the old women. But he was also casing the club while doing it.

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**Author:** ![Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walker_in_Eternity)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/54 "2014-01-28T08:21:58Z")

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> [@pancakes3](#):
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> Hard to say. I don’t think there was anything drastically different between the first and second episodes. I didn’t care much for the tagger nor the psychic storylines but I wouldn’t say that it was unfunny enough to be a dealbreaker. I do think the second episode was not the finest one but as with all things in cafe society, YMMV.

Thanks for the feedback. Will give Ep3 a go on Thursday.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/55 "2014-02-05T17:45:34Z")

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I went and grabbed all the episodes of _Brooklyn 99_ based on this thread and I am so glad I did! Love it!

Now I have to find _The Goldbergs_ and _Trophy Wives_ to see if you knuckleheads really “get me” or not 😛

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/56 "2014-02-06T19:04:21Z")

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> [@pancakes3](#):
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> Hard to say. I don’t think there was anything drastically different between the first and second episodes. I didn’t care much for the tagger nor the psychic storylines but I wouldn’t say that it was unfunny enough to be a dealbreaker. I do think the second episode was not the finest one but as with all things in cafe society, YMMV.

It had some funny bits:  
“Age”  
“400 years old. I’m a Highlander.”  
“Then you’re subject to Highlander justice so we’ll cut off your head.”

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/57 "2014-02-06T19:30:28Z")

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This show is really on fire right now. The first few episodes were funny but still struggling to find the show’s overall tone and figure out who the characters are. Tuesday night’s episode was one of my favorites so far.

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**Author:** ![MilTan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@MilTan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MilTan)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/58 "2014-02-06T20:50:00Z")

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“Give me your finest bottle of wine.”

“That’ll be $1600.”

“OK, then give me your eight dollarest bottle of wine.”

That had me rolling.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/59 "2014-02-07T12:08:20Z")

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This show is great! I love that they’re competent police officers in amongst the silliness. A perfect balance. Someone mentioned _Barney Miller_, and I agree, it has that same mix.

I just hope that if it gets a second season they upgrade the opening titles into something decent.

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**Author:** ![Nom\_de\_Plume](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/85f322/32.png) [@Nom\_de\_Plume](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nom_de_Plume)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/60 "2014-02-07T12:44:06Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I just hope that if it gets a second season they upgrade the opening titles into something decent.

I love the cheesy 70’s cop-show open. My wife and I dance to the music.

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