# Brooklyn Nine-Nine

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 22, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433 "2014-01-22T04:21:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/81 "2014-11-28T23:17:34Z")

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> [@BaldDudePeekskill](#):
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> I love the fact that Lt. Holt’s character is gay and there’s nothing remarkable about it. There’s no silliness about it, no stereotypes…just great dialogue. Being gay, i always watch tv shows or movies with gay characters with an over critical eye. I like that they are including ‘my people’ but I do not like when they are written caricatures and or every episode is ‘very special’. Da gayz are pretty ordinary, truth be told… Or at least my husband and I are.

I’d bet you’d be a fan of the portrayal of the gay couple in _The Sarah Silverman Show_. Have you seen it?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/82 "2014-11-29T02:46:06Z")

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> [@Nom\_de\_Plume](#):
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> I love the cheesy 70’s cop-show open. My wife and I dance to the music.

Yeah, don’t lose that open.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/83 "2014-11-29T22:44:58Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Yeah, don’t lose that open.

The _Brooklyn Nine-Nine_ theme song is now my default ringtone.

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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/84 "2014-12-02T18:47:54Z")

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I know I overthink shows a lot, but the most recent episode led to more overthinking than usual. In the pizzeria episode in season 1, Captain Holt states that he reads Boyle’s email blast because “it’s the only one that includes mouthfeel.” But then this week Holt could hardly care about food and likes PB&J sandwiches for their economy.

Now I’m torn between retconning the mouthfeel comment as one of those things Holt does that his husband’s friends from the university take as amusingly clever jokes, trying to develop some SED or sensory issue based head canon about Holt’s food preferences, or just accepting that sometimes writers and producers on serial television don’t keep track of established character beats the way fans do.

I do think that last one is probably the most reasonable. Reasonable maybe doesn’t do best in my household though- my husband and I literally spent 10 good minutes last night discussing this and our theory of the Boyle/Diaz relationship being something of an inversion or comparison to the Peralta/Santiago.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/85 "2014-12-03T08:15:12Z")

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SED?

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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/86 "2014-12-03T17:57:51Z")

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Selective Eating Disorder.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/87 "2014-12-03T18:36:32Z")

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Capt. Holt seems like the kind of man who would read such a thing because he appreciates the writing, and not because he’s necessarily interested in pizza.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/88 "2014-12-03T19:31:12Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> Any time they show him in flashback is just amazing. Frank Pembleton would be horrified.

Frank would only be horrified that his ‘secret past’ had been uncovered…as I am firmly convinced that Holt and Pembleton are in fact the same character.

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**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/89 "2014-12-03T19:32:10Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Capt. Holt seems like the kind of man who would read such a thing because he appreciates the writing, and not because he’s necessarily interested in pizza.

And because he wants to know everything about his turf, and feels Boyle’s reviews are the most in-depth.

Though the show does have problems with consistent characterization. With Gina, mostly. She’s been presented as someone who’s savvy enough to save enough money to buy Jake’s apartment, and has provided key insights into how the office works (the hacker situation), but also goes to Captain Holt’s house and steals all the silverware?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/90 "2014-12-03T19:57:09Z")

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In the most recent episode, Captain Holt made a croque-monsieur for his husband and a second one for Boyle. Boyle tried it and said it was perfect. I laughed when he said, “Now I know how Salieri felt.” And Terry Crews is great.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brooklyn-nine-nine/679433/91 "2015-05-18T11:03:50Z")

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Picked this thread to talk about the finale.  
Can’t imagine Andre Braugher will be gone long - though I suppose he and Chelsea Perretti could be in the “B” plot for a while.

Some googling says that what will happen at first, and the powers that be claim they don’t even know who will be the next captain:

> **[Brooklyn Nine-Nine Cast, EPs Talk \[Spoiler\]'s New Gig — Plus: Where Do Jake...](https://tvline.com/2015/05/17/brooklyn-nine-nine-jake-amy-kiss-holt-leaves-season-2-finale/)**
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> The following post mortem contains spoilers for the Season 2 finale of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. O Captain, my captain… you got played. Despite his best efforts to get the upper hand over rival Mad…

Brian

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