# Broomstick - Does His Ass Say rebeW or Not? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 19, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343 "2015-03-19T00:28:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/221 "2015-03-22T12:18:58Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > \ > > There are bigger fish to fry here- teapartiers (who can only post lies- and big giant lies at that), racists, deniers, southern apologists- but instead you take aim at a harmless story teller. Serious question: What’s a “southern apologist”? ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/222 "2015-03-22T12:32:00Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Serious question: What’s a “southern apologist”? I read that as southern anthropologists and couldn’t imagine what _they_ had gotten up to. I suspect southern apologists are those who suggest that blacks were actually better off under slavery, etc. But this is DrDeth so I could well be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/223 "2015-03-22T12:55:19Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Serious question: What’s a “southern apologist”? “Sorry, y’all, I et the last of the hush puppies.” > [@gigi](#): > > I’d hate to be branded with “ELTTEK Q-B-BRAB”. For one, it’s a lot more letters. Obligatory [Far Side link…](http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4374816/Branding_Cattle)scroll down a bit. > [@kopek](#): > > It not only talks, it attacks!!! And it’s eating my popcorn! Not sorry–even older joke ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/224 "2015-03-22T13:03:03Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It’s only a cute anecdote, the “truthiness” doesnt matter. I often tell a shaggy dog story about my “Uncle Sid” who had a miscarriage of justice occur to him _just because his was peeling a apple on a street corner_.:eek: The story didnt happen, I dont even have a Uncle Sid.\* It’s a joke, son.\* > > But if someone tried to call me on it as if it was a lie- I’d deny it- since anyone trying to track down the “truth” of such a obvious funny\* anecdote is so stupidly clueless that they dont deserve a explanation. This is an admission of extraordinary foolishness. Especially in a text-only medium, it’s very appropriate for a listener to be able to question the literal truth of an assertion. If your response is to tell a “shaggy dog” story and then refuse to admit, when specifically asked, that it was an attempt at humor instead of an actual, true, story, then you’re a fool. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/225 "2015-03-22T15:40:44Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > …If your response is to tell a “shaggy dog” story and then refuse to admit, when specifically asked, that it was an attempt at humor instead of an actual, true, story, then you’re a fool. Of course, we could just use our common sense and move on…not really giving a shit. Some people might not believe this, but if it wasn’t for _me_, there would be no sex in the world. No sex, no fine dining, no wine, no flowers, no little boxes of candy, no slow dancing, nothing like that. It happened a long time ago. In a place far, far away. I was sitting at a campfire with God the Almighty and he asked me what I envisioned that would make the world he was about to create a more enjoyable place. By then, I’d had a little God Grog, which was a tad sour, and feasted on some heavenly candy, which was far too sweet, listened to a bunch of naked angels playing harps…well, looking at those naked angles I had a feeling, a growing feeling, that I was about to discover to something. You can figure out the rest. I swear this is true. PS, I had nothing to do with Rock and Roll or Rap. Honest. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/226 "2015-03-22T17:36:52Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > **Broomstick** ’s stories are worthless, and I guess it’s nice that she has knowledge of some sort, but since she is a habitual liar/exaggerator, I don’t see how you could ever trust anything she says. And I don’t really find her board persona as nice or as pleasant as some of you seem to. She sees herself as a perpetual victim and most of her stories relate to that, and most of them seem exaggerated to the point of ridiculousness. I’ve been skimming/skipping her posts for years. This. Her “_poor me, poor me_” stories have certainly lost their intended impact over the years. What’s even _more_ annoying is that she _always_ claims she’s in a “special circumstance” when you try and give her advice. She will provide excuse-after-excuse-after-excuse on why the advice is not applicable for her Special Situation™. She is the **New Opal** in this regard. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/227 "2015-03-22T20:40:24Z")
It’s called “Why Don’t You – Yes But”, and [it was the original game](http://www.ericberne.com/games-people-play/why-dont-you-yes-but/) that led to the study and theory of [Transactional Analysis](http://www.ericberne.com/transactional-analysis/). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/228 "2015-03-22T20:46:20Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Serious question: What’s a “southern apologist”? [https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070421192322AAnElvu](https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070421192322AAnElvu) [http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc2680/](http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc2680/) > **[Reminding revisionists about the facts of the civil war, part 1](https://aliberalthinker.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/what-was-the-main-reason-for-confederate-secession-in-the-civil-war-again/)** > > Fact 1# Slavery was the core cause of the American civil war. The reason for Confederate secession has been a source of much heated debate surrounding the American civil war over the years. It seem… The term “Southern revisionist” or “neo-confederate” are also sometimes used. If someone sez “it was not about slavery, it was about states rights!” then they are a" southern apologist" or revisionist. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/229 "2015-03-22T20:47:48Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I believe this is the [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=574931) you’re referring to, **DrDeth**? If it is, it shows how obviously full of shit you are. > ( No. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/230 "2015-03-23T00:04:47Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > No. So then give us the link. Put up or shut up. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/231 "2015-03-23T00:46:26Z")
STOP CYBERBULLYING DrDURR!!! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/232 "2015-03-23T01:10:11Z")
Okay who’s going to call her out on her “ability” to [cook in her sleep?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=752382) ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/233 "2015-03-23T01:21:23Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Okay who’s going to call her out on her “ability” to [cook in her sleep?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=752382) Since you’re trying to make some kind of point, why don’t you do it, Sparky? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/234 "2015-03-23T01:47:42Z")
What, we’re NOT here to call her a liar on every post she makes? Well, is MY face ever red… :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/235 "2015-03-23T02:11:13Z")
This part in the OP’s linked news story is pure and utter BS from the principal: > [@](#): > > On Thursday, high school Principal Aaron Hopmayer addressed the incident in a school-wide announcement, apologizing to those who’d been offended. The principal should not have apologized. Rather, what he should have done is told the offenderati that they were the ones mistaken; not the school, not the student who normally recited the pledge, and certainly not the girl who recited the pledge in Arabic. In a perfect world, he could’ve told the morons to shove their stupidity. ETA: Why does this remind me so much of those idiots who flipped out ove rthe Coca-Cola commercial with _America the Beautiful_ sung in a number of languages and those who flipped out where upset because they confused that song with the National Anthem? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/236 "2015-03-23T02:19:48Z")
Oops. Wrong thread. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/237 "2015-03-23T02:36:53Z")
From another thread: > [@Why does the SDMB condone cyber bullying?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-does-the-sdmb-condone-cyber-bullying/715576/21): > > This really feels more like “people are saying mean things about someone I like” than it does bullying. It doesn’t really fit with any connotation of bullying that makes any sense to me. Add me to the list of people who are complaining about mean (as well as socially clueless and dimwitted) things about a poster I like (that poster being Broomstick). Qualified statements are another category, but those are rarer. Disclaimers: I don’t pretend to have read all or most of Broomstick’s anecdotes. I’ll just say that I found the OP’s position in the first couple of pages of this thread to be substantively unconvincing and, well, brainlessly obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/238 "2015-03-23T02:37:42Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > So then give us the link. Put up or shut up. Link to what? You mean about the holocaust denier? > **[A letter from Auschwitz](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=748767)** > > Hey everyone, So I got entangled with a Holocaust denier. Yeah, I know…bad idea. Anyway, I’m trying to refute his points about the camps having amenities like swimming pools and money and the like, but he’s claimed one thing that I can’t find any... \*\*Chen019 \*\*is the neo-nazi there. Take a look at his posting history. He’s also a racist. He did get a offhand mention as being on Der tris’s “list”. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/239 "2015-03-23T02:53:25Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > From another thread: Add me to the list of people who are complaining about mean (as well as socially clueless and dimwitted) things about a poster I like (that poster being Broomstick). Qualified statements are another category, but those are rarer. > > Disclaimers: > I don’t pretend to have read all or most of Broomstick’s anecdotes. I’ll just say that I found the OP’s position in the first couple of pages of this thread to be substantively unconvincing and, well, brainlessly obnoxious. I think you have me confused with someone who has a list. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/240 "2015-03-23T03:16:56Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Obligatory [Far Side link…](http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4374816/Branding_Cattle)scroll down a bit. Ouch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343.md?page=13)