# Broomstick - Does His Ass Say rebeW or Not? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 19, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343 "2015-03-19T00:28:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/321 "2015-08-06T03:54:15Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > I searched out of curiosity. You might not be surprised to hear that it wasn’t difficult to find a [post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18493736&postcount=17) where she lists her food allergies: > > I don’t think I’d characterize green peas, lentils, barley, and peanuts as “most” legumes, but in any case she did not list beans. Navy beans, the most common type of beans as used in baked beans, etc. are legumes. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/322 "2015-08-06T03:54:31Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > I don’t think I’d characterize green peas, lentils, barley, and peanuts as “most” legumes, but in any case she did not list beans. She did however say she ate lentils [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9371716&postcount=14) - “_I ate beans and lentils, too_”. Note the posts are separated by seven years and in the first she was describing past events, so plausible deniability exists on that one ( i.e. the allergy developed later ). Still - it does _look_ hinky. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/323 "2015-08-06T03:56:51Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > She also mentions (in your quoted post) as being allergic or intolerant to lentils but in one of the other threads (the middle one from above) she says “I ate beans and lentils, too.” > > Here’s the list of [edible legumes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Edible_legumes). I’d find it very odd for someone to claim that they’re allergic to ‘most legumes’ but just happen to be able to eat the only ones people actually associate with the word legume, like peanuts and beans and soy (tofu) and even lentils. Maybe she was living on Honey Locust and lablab, because we all see those at the local mega mart. Right. So, she says she’s deathly allergic to these foods, but has posted several times that she eats the fuck out of them. Liar. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/324 "2015-08-06T03:57:24Z")
[QUOTE=cmyk] If I say I’m allergic to most grains (as in a quick trip to the ER or I’ll die) allergic, then find out I’m only moderately allergic to oat and maaaaybe barely, wouldn’t you call that a lie more than an exaggeration? [/QUOTE] Yeah, maybe. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending her. I think half the stories she tells, well, let’s just say I don’t believe they happened the way she tells them. But on the other hand, there’s nothing I can point to that’s a _clear_ lie, like saying she eats beans in one post, and says she’s deathly allergic to them in another post. It’s all just embellishment and exaggeration. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/325 "2015-08-06T04:01:08Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Yeah, maybe. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending her. I think half the stories she tells, well, let’s just say I don’t believe they happened the way she tells them. But on the other hand, there’s nothing I can point to that’s a _clear_ lie, like saying she eats beans in one post, and says she’s deathly allergic to them in another post. It’s all just embellishment and exaggeration. Fair enough and I hear ya. But I think at this point there’s enough circumstantial evidence as well out out and out inconsistencies in her posts that we can just say she has a real pathological problem with lying/exaggerating. I’d warn anyone here who’s not familiar with her history to take her posts with the biggest grain of salt you can. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/326 "2015-08-06T04:11:21Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > But on the other hand, there’s nothing I can point to that’s a _clear_ lie, like saying she eats beans in one post, and says she’s deathly allergic to them in another post. One post: > [@Broomstick](#): > > I ate beans and lentils, too. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9371716&postcount=14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9371716&postcount=14) Another post (thread title, what are you allergic to): > [@Broomstick](#): > > Tomatoes, peas, lentils, oranges, barley, peanuts, corn [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12413507&postcount=13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12413507&postcount=13) She can’t have it both ways. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/327 "2015-08-06T04:20:10Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > One post: > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9371716&postcount=14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9371716&postcount=14) > > Another post (thread title, what are you allergic to): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12413507&postcount=13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12413507&postcount=13) > > She can’t have it both ways. Yes, Tamerlane pointed that out upthread, but also acknowledged that those posts were years apart and she was talking about the past in the old one…so who knows when the lentil allergy was discovered? Legume allergies often develop later in life. So still, to me there’s enough plausible deniability/room for explanation of the inconsistencies that you can’t really make accusations of lying. But as cmyk says, large grains of salt are recommended. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/328 "2015-08-06T04:41:38Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Yes, Tamerlane pointed that out upthread, but also acknowledged that those posts were years apart and she was talking about the past in the old one…so who knows when the lentil allergy was discovered? Peanut allergies only affect .6% of U.S. adults. [cite](https://farrp.unl.edu/informalllegumes) Lentil allergies are even less common. [cite](http://www.livestrong.com/article/484091-allergy-to-lentils/) I doubt that our Broomstick is THAT special. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/329 "2015-08-06T04:58:59Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Right. > > So, she says she’s deathly allergic to these foods, but has posted several times that she eats the fuck out of them. > > Liar. Maybe she just really likes going to the ER. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/330 "2015-08-06T05:05:44Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I’m only moderately allergic to oat and maaaaybe barely, What is it, moderately or barely? Your life is at stake! ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/331 "2015-08-06T06:24:09Z")
So, apparently this person is a compulsive liar with a persecution complex. What are the theories on the underlying mental disorder? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/332 "2015-08-06T11:12:17Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > So, apparently this person is a compulsive liar with a persecution complex. What are the theories on the underlying mental disorder? Chronic Republicanitis? [sub]_…and the cheap pandering shot is going… going… going…[/sub]_ ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/333 "2015-08-06T13:15:52Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > … It’s all just embellishment and exaggeration. Which, no matter how you look at it, is deliberately misrepresenting facts. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/334 "2015-08-06T13:41:28Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Which, no matter how you look at it, is deliberately misrepresenting facts. I can’t state with certainty that it’s deliberate. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/335 "2015-08-06T15:09:15Z")
FWIW, I don’t think she’s colorblind either. I’ll find the exchange I had with her about it later, but it came across as utter bullshit. But, she insists, so… ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/336 "2015-08-06T15:23:57Z")
> [@Do we have less compassion for the poor?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-have-less-compassion-for-the-poor/712707/47): > > I’m not, really, though - I mean, yes, I have a roof over my head, heat in the winter, and food on the table but the roof leaks every time it rains and there’s no getting rid of the mold in the walls anymore. The bar next door had three people shot last week but I can’t afford to move - there’s no way in hell I can come up with a security deposit on a new place, I can barely make the rent where I am now much less save up for a month’s worth extra for security. Instead, I wake up to gunfire at 2 am and dive under the bed. I have a truck that _could_ be helping us make money (it has in the past) but I had a choice between buying toilet paper and paying the co-pays for my spouse’s medication this week and fixing the broken fuel pump. I need new glasses desperately but can’t afford new lenses. I really need to bring in about $300-500 more a month but on the current advancement track at work that will be at least 3 years if all goes well. My spouse is disabled and trying to compete with the able-bodied in the job market is just not working. They cut our food by stamps $150 when I got a $0.25/hour raise at work because somehow by making an extra $42 a month means I can somehow stretch that $42 over what it took $150 to buy the month before. > > … > I live in a house where the back porch literally fell off the building two years ago, the roof leaks, we have mold, we have raccoons nesting in the attic… and I can barely afford the rent on this dump as it is. It’s a damn shame because when we moved in 16 years ago the place was kept up. So while I’m not homeless the housing sucks. > > As I noted, our monthly food benefit was cut $150/month because I earn $42 more a month at work. Apparently this is to “encourage” me to improve my situation. > How about enabling people to _survive_ poverty? > > How about affordable housing, meaning someone can live in a safe, intact, and decent place at minimum wage? > What the hell do you think you can teach me about “how to be poor”? Have YOU ever lived on an income below the poverty line? Please, give me some details on your plan here. > I have been turned away from more than one soup kitchen/food pantry because I wasn’t Christian. Which is the problem with religious charity - they ARE allowed to discriminate. Government benefits have to be given to all without discrimination - which no doubt pisses the hell out of the bigots. > > Charitable giving means nothing if you aren’t in one of the groups that can access it. > Maybe it’s about more than money? > > When I’m working a cash register and some woman hands over a WIC voucher and someone two customers back mutters “why are my taxes paying for that slutty whore’s bastards?” that’s sort of the opposite of compassion, don’t you think? (How said person determines the marital status of a woman with two toddlers I haven’t a clue, I assumed that ring on her left hand was for marriage but I’m just a dumb poor person myself.) > > When the state will pay for insurance coverage of children but refuses to give one dime to the medical needs of the kid’s parents that’s not compassion. > > Do I really need to keep going? > Yes, it just sucked if, instead of being 17 and unmarried she was in fact 25 when she had her first and her husband was killed or died or something, right? Tell me, HOW do you know which sort of single-woman-with-kids is which? How about single fathers with kids, do they deserve help or not? > > The truth is you ASSUME that a poor woman was a young slut when you _don’t know_ whether or not she was. Hell, I’ve seen a lot of people assume a poor woman was a single mother when in fact she was married and had been years before having a family. I’ve known quite a few middle-class people who used to despise the poor and repeat all the stereotypes suddenly find themselves poor and subject to the same scorn they used to heap on others. > Yes, good schools ARE a poverty issue because lack of education enormously increases the risk of poverty continuing another generation. What kids to escape poverty, or avoid it entirely? You need to educate them. That costs money. Problem is, we fund schools based on local geography so poor areas have less funding for schools than wealthy areas, further perpetuating unequal opportunities and greatly increasing the risk that poor children will be poor all their lives. > > If you don’t have public transportation that is reliable and useful for commuters then in order to have any job at all you will need a reliable car… which is an additional expense for the poor. If people in such an area lose their car they lose their job, followed rapidly by losing their home. In such places the disabled who are unable to drive can not find jobs at all, even if they’re capable of work. You don’t think that’s a poverty issue? > Oh, THANK YOU, I’ve been wondering _all this time_ how the hell I cure my poverty. ALL I HAVE TO DO IS BECOME RICH!!! Hallelujah! > > Now, why isn’t everyone a billionaire already? > Although, oddly enough, a LOT of people living on $10k or $15k a year WOULD be happy with those wages. Holy crap, I’d be deliriously happy to be making $20k a year! > So… what were you taught if, 20 or 30 years into your career your job is made obsolete by new technology and you lose that 6 figure job? What do you do when the choice is between cashing out some or all of that IRA _right now_ so you have a place to live or being homeless? > > You ASSUME that you are magically protected from misfortune. You are not. > You think $50k is poverty? > Yeah, I know about those things. Problem is when you have to choose between keeping those savings for a future two decades away or putting a roof over your head RIGHT NOW. > > See, this is proof you are not poor. That is NOT the best way to “figure out” social programs. > > What you do is go down to the welfare office and, while you’re sitting on those broken down cheap-ass folding chairs in the big room waiting for your “counselor” to get around to you, you turn to those scary-looking “ghetto” people sitting around you, the ones whose small talk makes it clear they’ve been in the system for years, and you say “Hey, I’m new here, got any pointers?” In addition to how to work the system you are also likely to learn which local junkyard pays most for aluminum cans, where the best soup kitchens are, which food pantries also provide things like toiletries and winter clothing, and how to strip the padding off a mattress so you can sell the bedspring as scrap steel. > > In other words, stop assuming those other folks are as stupid as you’ve been told as these years and TALK TO THEM, you know, the people who actually survive day to day as poor people. > Yeah, the iPhone thing does bother me - although most folks I know at my income level are not using iPhones, they’re using a cheaper knockoff, or bought a _used_ phone from a couple of versions ago cheap off eBay or Craigslist, and the like. > There’s income inequality and then there is stacking the deck against people. > Or maybe he’s become disabled… but of course, that NEVER happens to “good” people who do the right things, correct? And then he tried to keep up his properties despite bleeding money because he felt, I dunno, _compassion_ for his tenants or something. When he couldn’t work and therefore had _no income_. While dealing with medical bills. Because - SURPRISE! - insurance doesn’t cover everything. Then he sold off property to pay the bills on what was left. He’s down to 5 buildings and 6 or 7 tenants (some buildings are duplexes). I suppose he could sell Mrs. H’s building… but she’s on the transplant list waiting for a lung, even if she could afford to move she is _unable_ to do so. He could sell my building off… but then I’d be homeless, wouldn’t I? Rinse and repeat. Well, he didn’t have to throw Mr. and Mrs. J out - they died at home, elderly folks and all that. Then sold that house to pay the bills on the rest. > > Funny, _no one_ ever seems to consider they might become disabled and wind up poor because of it. When the person that happens to is a business owner or a landlord it just spreads it out further and affects more people. It really sucks when you are essentially forced to retire 20 years early, cash out those accounts to survive, and faced with six digit bills you in no way anticipated. > > That’s why I said _no one_ is immune. Well, maybe Bill Gates - if you have a billion dollars you’re probably safe. But, but… I always manage to keep my computer running and my internet hooked up so I can post on message boards. Beats having toilet paper or food on the table any day. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/337 "2015-08-06T16:06:30Z")
_rebeW, rebeW, your ass is a mess… Hot grill, I love you so._ sorry if this has been done already… ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/338 "2015-08-06T16:11:17Z")
Yeah, as I think I mentioned earlier in this thread, my biggest issue with her exaggerations is that they are meant to raise awareness of important social issues, but they have the unfortunate tendency to have the opposite effect of what she wants…they make people less sympathetic and less prone to believe the trials of people who live in poverty, or the problem of sexual harassment, etc. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/339 "2015-08-06T16:25:06Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > I can’t state with certainty that it’s deliberate. If it’s not deliberate, what are you suggesting? That she’s delusional? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/340 "2015-08-06T16:28:49Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > or the problem of sexual harassment, etc. What problem? She’ll just break your femur if you try to hit on her and suggest she leave her gimp husband. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343.md?page=18)