# Broomstick - Does His Ass Say rebeW or Not? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 19, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343 "2015-03-19T00:28:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/361 "2015-08-07T01:49:32Z")
The feeling I get is Broomstick puts her own spin on things. Say someone approaches her and in public and says something stupid and braindead but well meaning, like it is so nice you stand by your husband instead of leaving him. This becomes someone told me I should dump my crippled husband. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/362 "2015-08-07T02:00:08Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > The **only** time salt _ **ever** _ touches my skin is when tears of pain cascade _down my face!_ > > Several times a day, basically. I salt my lethal legumes… WITH MY _TEARS!_ ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/363 "2015-08-07T03:34:42Z")
> [@grude](#): > > The feeling I get is Broomstick puts her own spin on things. You think? > [@](#): > > Say someone approaches her and in public and says something stupid and braindead but well meaning, like it is so nice you stand by your husband instead of leaving him. > > This becomes someone told me I should dump my crippled husband. I don’t think it even has to be that egregious. More like: “I think it’s admirable that you have sacrificed so much to care for your husband. He’s an extremely lucky man.” “What am I supposed to do, load him into a shopping cart and wheel him down to the river and abandon him? I’ve flown airplanes! Now I can’t even afford toilet paper! How would you like trying to eke out a living on $42 a month? Huh? You know what we had for dinner last night? Dirt from the backyard, that’s what! I’ll have you know that I…” (_sotto voce)_ “Ok, I think I’ll be going now.” ---
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/364 "2015-11-16T20:14:38Z")
Here’s Broomstick’s latest: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18861765&postcount=50](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18861765&postcount=50) > [@Muslim Dopers in Western countries: Do you feel safe?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-dopers-in-western-countries-do-you-feel-safe/737535/50): > > Because in my neighborhood a local restaurant owner, a man who had engaged in extensive fund raising for those injured by 9/11, and the families of those killed, who proudly displayed an American flag every day of the year, who had been a US citizen for 30 years and raised his family here, was gunned down in cold blood in 2002 for the “crime” of being a Muslim. Shot dead in his restaurant, in front of his family, by a bigot. > > Granted the plural of anecdote is not data, but your assertion that no such thing happened is negated by the death of someone I knew for several years. Not to mention all the well documented other reports of the same. I still miss the man, who had built a halal restaurant to serve the local Muslim community but who also took equal pains to make everyone feel welcome there. I’m happy to say his sons carry on his legacy, but they still miss their father every day. Somehow this story of a flag-waiving Muslim man who was gunned down in cold blood in front of his family by a bigot must not have been important enough to make the headlines, so I guess we’ll have to take her word for it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/365 "2015-11-16T20:26:24Z")
> [@Surreal](#): > > Here’s Broomstick’s latest: > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18861765&postcount=50](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18861765&postcount=50) > > Somehow this story of a flag-waiving Muslim man who was gunned down in cold blood in front of his family by a bigot must not have been important enough to make the headlines, so I guess we’ll have to take her word for it. [Found this article from 2006.](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-09-11/news/0609110147_1_muslim-community-community-meeting-hate) > [@](#): > > Northwest Indiana restaurant owner Naseeb Mohammed attended prayer services at his mosque on Friday, where local and federal law enforcement officers assured Muslims that they would be on guard against hate crimes as the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks approached. > > Mohammed, 60, of Munster, Ind., was killed the next morning as he prepared lentil soup in his Middle Eastern restaurant, Aladdin Pita, in Merrillville. Employees arriving at about 10 a.m. found him dead of a gunshot wound, police said. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/366 "2015-11-16T20:45:43Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The problem is- you guys having nothing better to do that harass her over a silly little story- and obsess over all her similar stories. Usually this is called 'stalking" - but you just hate when you’re called out on it. > > Now dont get me wrong- there are sometimes posters here that deserve this- trolls, racists, deniers, and what-not. > > She is none of those and the fact that her fantasy life intrudes a bit into her posts makes no difference- she’s just trying to _entertain_ with her personal anecdotes. > > There are bigger fish to fry here- teapartiers (who can only post lies- and big giant lies at that), racists, deniers, southern apologists- but instead you take aim at a harmless story teller. > > Maybe you’re afraid to take on the Big Game? You only want to pick on her instead? \*\*You are simply being a internet bully. \*\* Lol. Lying is cool if it’s from your tribe? ---
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/367 "2015-11-16T20:52:09Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Found this article from 2006.](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-09-11/news/0609110147_1_muslim-community-community-meeting-hate) Thanks. It looks like the incident happened in 2006, but Broomstick stated that it happened in 2002 to make it appear more plausible that it was some sort of payback for 9/11. Also note that it was a simple robbery with absolutely no evidence to suggest that it a hate crime at all, but Broomstick stated that he was shot by a bigot. ---
**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/368 "2015-11-16T21:58:26Z")
> [@Surreal](#): > > Thanks. It looks like the incident happened in 2006, but Broomstick stated that it happened in 2002 to make it appear more plausible that it was some sort of payback for 9/11. From the article **running coach** [linked](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-09-11/news/0609110147_1_muslim-community-community-meeting-hate) and quoted above: > [@](#): > > . . .local and federal law enforcement officers assured Muslims that they would be on guard against hate crimes as the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks approached. At this point, I’m not sure my brain would correctly recall which hate crimes occurred immediately in the wake of 9/11 and which occurred following the five year anniversary. They’re both “a while ago” now. It seems like an easy, honest mistake to make. > [@Surreal](#): > > Also note that it was a simple robbery with absolutely no evidence to suggest that it a hate crime at all, but Broomstick stated that he was shot by a bigot. Again per the [linked](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-09-11/news/0609110147_1_muslim-community-community-meeting-hate) article, the family of the victim believed it was a hate crime because of the timing of the incident and the fact that not all of the available money at the scene was taken. Whether it actually was a hate crime, it was certainly a plausible hypothesis. Given the attention given to the 9/11 anniversary and the hate crime theory mentioned in the article, it is not at all strange that a member of the community would recall it as a hate crime. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/369 "2015-11-16T22:15:07Z")
The thing is, she can’t keep her stories straight. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Although admittedly I got one detail wrong - he wasn’t actually shot in front of his family, it was his family that found him. Well, sue me, it’s been 9 years and my memory isn’t perfect. The link that **she** provided, in the very same post, said the victim was found by his employees, not his family. Her connection to reality is tenuous, at best. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18863940&postcount=68](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18863940&postcount=68) ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/370 "2015-11-16T22:28:21Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The thing is, she can’t keep her stories straight. Its more like you can’t get your personal attacks to stick. Weak Sauce / Boo-Hoo. > [@octopus](#): > > Lol. Lying is cool if it’s from your tribe? Yeah, he should ‘get with the program’ of ganging up on the person you want, right Blofeld? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/371 "2015-11-16T23:01:08Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Weak Sauce / Boo-Hoo. Since you’re obviously impaired, here’s how her story went down: Broomstick: Flag-waving, American, Muslim shot down in front of his family!!! Broomstick Part 2: I was wrong in one detail, he wasn’t shot in front of his family, his family found him. Here’s a link. Broomstick’s Own Fucking Link: He was found by his employees. She is full of shit, as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/372 "2015-11-16T23:08:19Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Its more like you can’t get your personal attacks to stick. Weak Sauce / Boo-Hoo. > > …: Broomstick takes a fact from over there, another from around the corner, adds a little flavor, stirs until blended and relates it as a personal event. It’s not like everyone doesn’t realize that, and accepts it as fair to middling fiction. Seriously, I doubt Herman Melville ever and an encounter with a white whale either, but I enjoyed reading about it. Broomstick just has lots of white whales in her closet to write about. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/373 "2015-11-16T23:20:11Z")
More evidence that it was a hate crime is detailed in a [2009 article](http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/naseeb-mohammed-restaurant-owner-s-case-mysterious-to-family/article_49ac03c8-fd8b-51b4-8811-118701aed994.html). The shooting occurred the day after the fifth anniversary of 911, and a day after local law enforcement and FBI participated at a prayer service at a local mosque. A little over $150 of cash was stolen while banded stacks of cash were left untouched in an office desk which had it drawers opened. Local police did not cooperate with America’s Most Wanted, suggesting to me that they don’t want the attention the hate crime moniker would attract. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/374 "2015-11-16T23:36:00Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Since you’re obviously impaired, here’s how her story went down: > > Broomstick: Flag-waving, American, Muslim shot down in front of his family!!! > > Broomstick Part 2: I was wrong in one detail, he wasn’t shot in front of his family, his family found him. Here’s a link. > > Broomstick’s Own Fucking Link: He was found by his employees. > > She is full of shit, as usual. Yeah well, see what tiny details you can correctly remember\* 8 years after.\* The odds say you will get more wrong that she did. \* Everyone’s\* memory is crappy. ---
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/375 "2015-11-16T23:52:36Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > The shooting occurred the day after the fifth anniversary of 911. It did not. The very cite you linked to above says he was killed on Sept. 9, 2006. Lots of random calendar days will be in the vicinity of some particular anniversary of 9/11. That’s hardly proof that it was a hate crime. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/376 "2015-11-16T23:55:02Z")
Great Og on a pogo stick how is this thread still going? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/377 "2015-11-17T01:32:04Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Since you’re obviously impaired Obviously impaired… because I don’t agree with the grand assumptions of an Obvious Troll like You!? If you want a second opinion, since its The Pit, You’re An Asshole, Too. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Broomstick: Flag-waving, American, Muslim shot down in front of his family!!! > > Broomstick Part 2: I was wrong in one detail, he wasn’t shot in front of his family, his family found him. Here’s a link. > > Broomstick’s Own Fucking Link: He was found by his employees. That’s an awfully small trophy point, but if it’ll get you back under your bridge, TROLL, you go have fun with it. Its close enough for Normal people after 8 years. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > She is full of shit, as usual. Your big contributions recently are picking on Ambivalid & Whining about Crapital Gains Taxes. You’ve Got A Lotta Damn Gall to be calling ANYONE else “full of shit as usual”. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Her connection to reality is tenuous, at best. Oh, Hold the Phone! Another butt-hurt MBA Conservative thinks that trains them to practice medicine? Color us all shocked, “Dr. D’Anconia”. :dubious: > [@Princhester](#): > > Great Og on a pogo stick how is this thread still going? It wasn’t locked. It should be though. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/378 "2015-11-17T01:34:13Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yeah well, see what tiny details you can correctly remember\* 8 years after.\* The odds say you will get more wrong that she did. \* Everyone’s\* memory is crappy. I’m not talking about her memory of eight years ago, she contradicted herself in the same gosh darn post! “His family found him, here’s a link to more information”. Her own link said that the employees found him. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/379 "2015-11-17T01:51:36Z")
Wow, you’re dumber than Dr. Deth. > [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Its close enough for Normal people after 8 years. It wasn’t eight years, it was all in one fucking post, #68 of the thread in question. > [@](#): > > Your big contributions recently are picking on Ambivalid & Whining about Crapital Gains Taxes. I never said a word to, or even about **Ambivalid** , and I never complained about the Capital Gains Tax. Cite where I said either one (which you’ll get wrong, because such cites don’t exist), or SHUT THE FUCK UP. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343/380 "2015-11-17T02:56:16Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Your big contributions recently are picking on Ambivalid & Whining about Crapital Gains Taxes. **Boo Boo Foo** recently started a Pit thread about Ambivalid – perhaps you are mistaken about this claim? Or perhaps I failed to notice another instance involving Ambivalid, one in which D’Aconia was picking on him? And I also missed the Capital Gains thing–was that another mistaken identity? Or was it my miss? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broomstick-does-his-ass-say-rebew-or-not/715343.md?page=20)