# Brosnan fired from Bond. Is this news? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 15, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369 "2004-10-15T13:51:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/41 "2004-10-16T14:44:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Loach > That a whooosh? He is 33. > > Ralph Macchio was nearly 30 in his last outing. I knew Ralph Macchio, Ralph Macchio was my friend, Ewan Macgregor is no Ralph Macchio. Ok not really. Ewan is too old to go around playing Jimmy Bond in any young James Bond story. He looks like he is in his thirties. Ralph did not. > [@](#): > > OK, technically he’s Russian/ American. But he did spend his childhood over here, his accent is real. And he’s got the right look. IIRC he went to England when he was an adult and worked there for years. If by “his accent is real” you mean is sounds right I’ll take your word for it (it sounds good to me). If you mean that its the way he really talks then you are incorrect. IRL he speaks with an American accent. > [@](#): > > Brosnan is Irish, Connery Scots, Lazenby Australian, Dalton Welsh. Only Moore is British. You forgot a couple: Barry Nelson American, David Niven British. :: d&R :: ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/42 "2004-10-16T14:53:55Z")
> [@GingerOfTheNorth](#): > > Brosnan is Irish, Connery Scots, Lazenby Australian, Dalton Welsh. Only Moore is British. Ireland, Scotland, and Wales are all a part of Britain. Don’t get Britain confused with England. I don’t they like that. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/43 "2004-10-16T14:57:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Ireland, Scotland, and Wales are all a part of Britain. > > Don’t get Britain confused with England. I don’t they like that. Don’t tell the Irish they are part of Britain. They \*really \* don’t like that. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/44 "2004-10-16T16:43:41Z")
> [@Winkie](#): > > I submit: [Jason Statham](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005458/) > > He’s very sexy (although a touch hair deprived, but I’m digging the bald guys lately), he has the accent, he can fight and use a gun (movie-wise, at least), and he can do all the stunt driving! He seems to have a good sense of fun about him, as well. He’s too gangstery. Not a gentlman like 007. I think Christian Bale is perfect. English, black hair (A 00 agent should have black hair), serious, intelligent-looking, ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/45 "2004-10-16T16:45:19Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Don’t get Britain confused with England. I don’t they like that. A hamster stole your think. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/46 "2004-10-16T18:05:16Z")
I got it: Jeremy Northam. Perfect. > **[Jeremy Northam - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000562/)** > > Jeremy Northam, Actor: Gosford Park. Jeremy Philip Northam was born in Cambridge, England to parents John and Rachel, both university professors. John Northam is best known for his translations of Henrik Ibsen. The family moved to Bristol, in 1972,... ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/47 "2004-10-16T19:19:26Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Don’t tell the Irish they are part of Britain. They \*really \* don’t like that. Indeed. And for what it’s worth I believe the original character was Irish. Or rather, of Irish decent. So not _essentially_ British, really 🙂 . ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/48 "2004-10-16T20:11:02Z")
In the books, his father was a Scottish Lord, his mother was Swiss. Which makes him Swiss Cottage (old joke) ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/49 "2004-10-16T20:15:19Z")
I’m a big fan of color-blind casting for Shakespearian plays and non-race/culturally specific characters. But as big a Bond fan as I am, and as big a Denzel Washington fan I’ve been, there’s no. freakin’. way. I’d buy Denzel as James Bond. If you want to shoehorn Denzel into the franchise, make him either the new American CIA liason Felix Leiter or the new “M.” But not James Bond. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/50 "2004-10-16T20:44:59Z")
> [@Peter Morris](#): > > In the books, his father was a Scottish Lord, his mother was Swiss. I stand corrected. I could have sworn Irish. Still…if they want Denzel he could have a Scottish father and a Jamaican mother and be just a British 🙂 . ---
**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/51 "2004-10-17T00:19:38Z")
My favorites from this thread are: Jason Isaacs, Hugh Jackman, Dougray Scott, Jason Statham, Jeremy Northam. Denzel Washington would be a great choice, as well. But if you don’t want a black american actor, how about a black british actor? How about Colin Salmon? He played a supporting role in Goldeneye, as I recall. I thought he was handsome and had a devastating accent. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/52 "2004-10-17T00:44:30Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Brosnan was quoted some months back as saying that he wouldn’t do another Bond film unless they replaced the writers. The writers were also quoted as saying that they were really having trouble coming up with a script. They’re _having trouble coming up with a script?!?!?!_ Christ almighty! These things are as formulaic as a high-school chem lab! How hard can it be? 1. Set piece action sequence. 2. Session at HQ. M mocks 007, Moneypenny pines, Q gives toys. 3. Bond gathers intel. Meets babe-o-the-month. 4. Action sequence. Preferably with cars and some hand-to-hand fighting. 5. Bond captured. Girl captured or betrays him. Bond taken to high-tech supervillian lair. 6. Bond escapes. Villian dies ironically. Lair destroyed. 7. Bonds gets laid. Can I have my 2 million dollars now? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/53 "2004-10-17T00:53:17Z")
**Could Bond be female?** It sounds like heresy, like a female Dr. Who or female Starship Captain (oh, wait…). But think about it - is it _possible_ that out there there is an actress who could pull it off? She wouldn’t be lesbian, as that would be too risque for the box office, so the usual silicone-injected tarts would be absent (replaced by horse testosterone-injected beefcake, I guess) and they’d perhaps lose a lot of the audience. Hmm…what about a somewhat bulked-up Liz Hurley? Or (gasp) Madonna? Or is it by definition of the nature of “Bond” simply not viable to ever have any female character? (FTR I think it’s likely not possible for Bond to be anything other than a heterosexual male and have it “work”, but the question keeps occurring to me…) ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/54 "2004-10-17T01:31:42Z")
> [@Una Persson](#): > > **Could Bond be female?** > > It sounds like heresy, like a female Dr. Who or female Starship Captain (oh, wait…). But think about it - is it _possible_ that out there there is an actress who could pull it off? She wouldn’t be lesbian, as that would be too risque for the box office, so the usual silicone-injected tarts would be absent (replaced by horse testosterone-injected beefcake, I guess) and they’d perhaps lose a lot of the audience. > > Hmm…what about a somewhat bulked-up Liz Hurley? Or (gasp) Madonna? Or is it by definition of the nature of “Bond” simply not viable to ever have any female character? > > (FTR I think it’s likely not possible for Bond to be anything other than a heterosexual male and have it “work”, but the question keeps occurring to me…) I kind of thought that’s what the Lara Croft movies were supposed to be, and while I don’t have complaints about most of the acting which goes on in those movies, the storylines leave a lot to desired, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/55 "2004-10-17T01:33:36Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > They’re _having trouble coming up with a script?!?!?!_ > > Christ almighty! These things are as formulaic as a high-school chem lab! How hard can it be? Then you need a title, which must have at least one, and preferably two or three of the following: 1. Three syllables long, preferably a single word. 2. Some time reference (day or ever) 3. The word “die”, “live” or “kill” 4. The name of a precious mineral. 5. The word “love” 6. Some geological reference. (Or selenological if you’re pressed) 7. The name or title of a major character, the bad guy for preference. 8. Part of the body ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/56 "2004-10-17T01:36:42Z")
“Tungsten Moon Maiden” ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/57 "2004-10-17T02:02:36Z")
“Long Lives the King” ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/58 "2004-10-17T02:42:47Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > “Tungsten Moon Maiden” I drank one of those last year. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/59 "2004-10-17T03:09:58Z")
And look where you are now. Married to a yank with one on the way. Teach you. ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369/60 "2004-10-17T15:04:03Z")
> [@GingerOfTheNorth](#): > > Brosnan is Irish, Connery Scots, Lazenby Australian, Dalton Welsh. Only Moore is British. Note that none of these are _future_ Bonds. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brosnan-fired-from-bond-is-this-news/269369.md?page=4)