# Brother Bear - new animated Diz movie! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 17, 2003, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118 "2003-07-17T12:12:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![H8\_2\_W8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c77e96/32.png) [@H8\_2\_W8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H8_2_W8)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/1 "2003-07-17T12:12:30Z")
I hope this is a good as it looks - > **[Movies](https://movies.disney.com/)** > > Explore all our Disney Movies to find Disney+ originals, classic and new upcoming films, and even Blu-rays, DVDs and downloads. Plus, find movies to stream now on Disney+ or Hulu. with Bob and Doug McKenzie (Moranis and Thomas - - “Take off you hoser” “Beauty, eh?”) as moose for comic relief. Set in Pacific NW, indian magically becomes a bear and ends up watching over a lost bear cub like a big brother. His tribe then comes hunting the bears. I showed my almost 4 y/o the movie trailer last night and he just loved it and wanted to watch it over and over again. For the record, we often call him “Brother Bear” since his baby brother came along 4 months ago (who is nicknamed “Baby Bear.”) ---
**Author:** ![G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c67d28/32.png) [@G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.B.H.Hornswoggler)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/2 "2003-07-17T13:49:14Z")
I saw the trailer with **Finding Nemo** a few weeks ago and that one was also pretty funny – Moranis and Thomas had a lot of good stuff there. (“If you see only one movie this year…” “Too late, you hoser, there’s a movie starting in this theater in like two minutes.” “If you see only one movie this year, like, get out now!” and then, as it faded out “I wonder if they found that Nemo guy, eh?”) But the plot looks like standard-issue Disney schmaltz – lost young person finds himself on an epic journey with a parent figure – with added movie-Injun sentimentality. I’m definitely waiting for reviews before I decide to go see it (unless the kid makes me go…there’s always that possibility). ---
**Author:** ![TeaRoses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@TeaRoses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaRoses)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/3 "2003-07-17T14:01:34Z")
I saw the trailer with Finding Nemo too, and that basically encapsulates my reaction. And the animation didn’t look that great to me. I somehow zoned out however and didn’t realize that was Bob and Doug, might be worth seeing just for that. ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/4 "2003-07-17T15:00:19Z")
I saw the trailer when I went to see “Sinbad.” First thought: “I guess the environmental message in ‘Pocahontas’ didn’t take and Disney feels the need to try again.” Second: “Oh lord, Phil Collins has contributed his whiny talents to yet another Disney vehicle.” Third: “Those moose are probably going to be the only good thing about the movie. I’ll skip it.” As a side note, “Sinbad” was great. ---
**Author:** ![Gulo\_gulo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@Gulo\_gulo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gulo_gulo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/5 "2003-07-17T18:33:27Z")
I did NOT know that it was Bob & Doug! Yay! How perfect! The movie looks like the usual Disney drivel (Hunting BAD!) I’ll probably go see it at a cheap matinee. There’s been a couple Disneys that I’ve regretted not seeing in the theatre, so I may as well see this film in one. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/6 "2003-07-17T19:42:42Z")
I don’t know if they’ll go the full ‘hunting = bad’ route. I mean it at least looks like some sort of Native American story and Native Americans hunt. I think the main character (the human one) learns what it is to be a bear. For a really good film that is almost the same check out [The Bear](http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0095800). It stars Bart the (real live) bear. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/7 "2003-07-17T20:23:12Z")
Saw the trailer, but was unimpressed. Methinks it will be another disappointment. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/8 "2003-07-17T21:17:06Z")
I’ve seen this trailer three times, now, in front of three excellent movies: _Sinbad_, _Pirates of the Carribean_, and _Finding Nemo_. I say this so you’ll know I’m not some sort of movie snob: I can enjoy a mindless romp or a well made kiddie movie, no problem. But my God, does _Brother Bear_ look awful. Really, really awful. Talking animal movies can only work if the concept of the food chain is scroupulously ignored. (There are exceptions: _Finding Nemo_ is one. _The Lion King_ is not.) If you can have a conversation as equals with whatever it is you’re about to eat… well, the moral implications are stomach turning, to say the least. Although not as stomach turning as the sidekick bear cub, if the trailers are anything to go by. Christ, I only saw that character for all of two minutes, and I’m already having fantasies of starring at the little bugger through the sights on a hunting rifle. And, needless to say, anyone who gives Phil Collins any sort of opportunity to sing should be seized by federal agents and held incommunicado down in Gitmo with the other terrorists. But then, I’ve only seen the one trailer. Maybe I’m being unfairly critical. ---
**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/9 "2003-07-17T21:32:46Z")
Saw the trailer. Except for the meese, looked like a dead loss. Why don’t they just skip the animation, and put Bob and Doug in their own movie? I’m gonna hafta rent Strange Brew again… ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/10 "2003-07-17T23:47:14Z")
I greatly fear that at some point in my future life, no matter how hard I try to avoid it, I’ll hear that song about brotherhood from the trailer again. (shudder) ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/11 "2003-07-18T00:23:19Z")
Here’s another warning. This is not one of Disney’s full length animated features. This is just one of their regular animated movies along the lines of Peter Pan 2 and the like. Disney’s 43rd FLAF is something about singing cows starring Cuba Gooding and Judi Dench. Something that could be very funny and leave after 5 minutes material. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/12 "2003-07-18T00:24:23Z")
_AHEM_ Very funny _ **or** _ leave after 5 minutes material. ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/13 "2003-07-18T00:28:07Z")
I saw the trailer with Finding Nemo and thought “Holy crap, does that look awful and stupid.” I liked the Lion King though. 'Keep wishing they’d make something good again like Emporer’s New Groove… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/14 "2003-07-18T02:58:08Z")
The moose-dudes cracked me up, but when I heard that “soaring” Phil Collins soundtrack, I rolled my eyes. When the plot started to manifest itself, they rolled all the way back and got stuck for the rest of the trailer. I think Phil Collins is the universal symbol for “Suck.” Now Emporer’s New Groove kicked boo-tay, **jin** , though I think it actually started as a schmaltzy Elton John-scored movie. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brother-bear-new-animated-diz-movie/189118/15 "2003-07-18T07:15:20Z")
**The Emperor’s New Groove** was originally about a cocky South American emperor who got turned into a llama, and had to find his way home and learn some humility along the way. The story proved unusable halfway through, so the writers retooled it as a zany comedy instead. **Brother Bear** looks like someone found the wrecks of the original **Emperor** plot, dusted it off, changed a few details (South America to North America, llama to bear), and gave it a quick spit-n-polish.