# Broun: I'm not sayin' he's Hitler, but...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160 "2008-11-11T05:11:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Szlater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Szlater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Szlater)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/21 "2008-11-11T12:01:42Z")

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Will the purges be televised? I wonder what they’ll do for sweeps!

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/22 "2008-11-11T12:22:14Z")

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> [@catflea12](#):
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> Just like certain people thought Bush was going to be a dictator for life

Which Congressperson made that statement to the press?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/23 "2008-11-11T13:30:23Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> But was Hitler bad at bowling? I think someone needs to research this.

Naw, I’d wager that with a few beers in him Hitler could outbowl most of us. But I can’t imagine him playing basketball without laughing. Me, that is, not Hitler.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/24 "2008-11-11T13:48:37Z")

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> [@catflea12](#):
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> Just like certain people thought Bush was going to be a dictator for life

Oh tu quoque, will you never die?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/25 "2008-11-11T14:08:44Z")

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> [@catflea12](#):
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> Just like certain people thought Bush was going to be a dictator for life

Wow, you’ve negated the entire thread with just 13 words. We genuflect before your mighty, er, fallacy.

Seriously, though, calling this vague idea for a civilian utility organization a ‘national security force’? The epithets practically write themselves. I’m old school; why not just call it the Works Progress Administration or the Civilian Conservation Corps, like back in the goodle days?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/26 "2008-11-11T14:27:57Z")

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Is there some sort of parallel between Van der Lubbe the Bricklayer and Joe the Plumber?

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/27 "2008-11-11T14:34:56Z")

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Joe the Plumber’s a communist!!!111!!

:mind explodes:

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/28 "2008-11-11T14:39:27Z")

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Just based on this, I hereby Pit all Georgians.

Go Gators! 😃

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**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/29 "2008-11-11T14:57:35Z")

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At least one Republican apparently thinks that it is his party that needs to emulate Hitler. In the world of the bizarre, Deroy Murdock, National Review Online contributing editor and media fellow with the Hoover Institution, in [Restoring Reaganism](http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjRmYmIzZTk3NTU1M2VjYWY3N2E3YmY1ZmY3MzI0Mzk=), writes – in all seriousness as far as I can tell – that "What the Republican party badly needs is a [Night of the Long Knives"](http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/knives.html).

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/30 "2008-11-11T15:08:57Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Naw, I’d wager that with a few beers in him Hitler could outbowl most of us.

Nah. Goebbels always kept Hitler away from the booze. Hitler got mean when he drank.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/31 "2008-11-11T15:13:29Z")

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> [@Baldwin](#):
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> And secretly gay. Yeah. you’ll all be eatin’ your words when you’re living in a Marxist Nazi Caliphate with gay storm troopers in lavender uniforms kicking your door in and installing window treatments against your will. Don’t come crying to me.

Oh, thank God! I need new window treatments after the cats destroyed the blinds and I suck at interior design.

As for Congressman Batshit Insane (R), this really goes far to explain the insane ramblings that I have heard from my aunt in Georgia this election. I wonder if she was able to vote for him.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/32 "2008-11-11T15:26:12Z")

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Oooh, this looks like the perfect place to play [url=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=491964&page=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=491964&page=2)”]Anti-Obama Dictionary\*\*!

> [@Kimstu](#):
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> **Arab** , 1. _n._ A Kenyan-American with no Arab heritage and no knowledge of Arabic who does not set foot in the Middle East until he’s over 40. 2. _adj._ Not decent.
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> **Inexperienced** , _adj._ Never having served as Governor of Alaska.
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> **Marxist** , _n._ A moderate follower of the Chicago School of capitalist economics who favors a slight increase in the progressivity of the federal income tax.
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> **Muslim** , _n._ A baptized, churchgoing Christian who has lived in a Muslim country. Other prominent Muslims in history include St. Albert, Richard the Lionhearted, and Napoleon.
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> **Terrorist** , _n._ A law-abiding opponent of terror tactics who has ever had any acquaintance with anyone who ever used or advocated any form of illegal violence at any point in the past.

> [@Hostile Dialect](#):
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> **Messiah** , _n._ A political entity who shows up at the right time and gets shit done.
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> **Socialism** , _n._ A political system in which citizens have the right of free speech and freedom of association, and pay smaller taxes than the rest of the First World in exchange for fewer government services.
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> **Free market capitalism** , _n._ A political system identical to socialism, except that the financial industry is nationalized, the government spends more money on ineffective social programs, and freedom of speech and association are not guaranteed.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/33 "2008-11-11T15:45:47Z")

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> [@whitetho](#):
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> At least one Republican apparently thinks that it is his party that needs to emulate Hitler. In the world of the bizarre, Deroy Murdock, National Review Online contributing editor and media fellow with the Hoover Institution, in [Restoring Reaganism](http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjRmYmIzZTk3NTU1M2VjYWY3N2E3YmY1ZmY3MzI0Mzk=), writes – in all seriousness as far as I can tell – that "What the Republican party badly needs is a [Night of the Long Knives"](http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/knives.html).

So, who gets to be Hitler and who gets to be Rohm?

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/34 "2008-11-11T15:54:11Z")

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> [@catflea12](#):
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> Just like certain people thought Bush was going to be a dictator for life

Except that Bush joked about how he’d like to be a dictator. And said “there ought to be limits to freedom.” And locked people up for years without charges or access to representation, and claimed the authority to do the same to anybody he wanted to, including you. Little things like that. Otherwise, you’re right; it’s just like that.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/35 "2008-11-11T15:57:31Z")

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Another one for the dictionary:

**Nazi** , _n._ See **Marxist**.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/36 "2008-11-11T16:07:48Z")

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> [@Camus](#):
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> Except Hitler himself was never elected chancellor.

No one was elected Chancellor. Hitler was, however, “elected” chancellor, in the same way that the other Chancellors were elected…his party was the largest in the Reichstag.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/37 "2008-11-11T16:28:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Except Hitler himself was never elected chancellor. Where did this “Well, they elected Hitler to be a dictator” meme come from? Did this guy’s knowledge of history come from being able to see the Sudetenland from his front porch?

Exactly. Hitler was just another elected offical under constitutional control until the national legislature passed a law giving him special extra-legal powers in the aftermath of a terrorist attack. Like any country would ever make that mistake again.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/38 "2008-11-11T16:33:16Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> No one was elected Chancellor. Hitler was, however, “elected” chancellor, in the same way that the other Chancellors were elected…his party was the largest in the Reichstag.

That was an important political consideration, but, actually, [he was appointed by President Hindenberg.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler#Appointment_as_Chancellor)

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/39 "2008-11-11T17:00:28Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> That was an important political consideration, but, actually, [he was appointed by President Hindenberg.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler#Appointment_as_Chancellor)

Right. But all Chancellors were appointed by the President. Article 53 of the Constitution:

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> The Reich chancellor, and, at his request, the Reich ministers, are appointed and dismissed by the Reich President.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/40 "2008-11-11T17:42:20Z")

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Here are some arguments to refute Mr. Broun’s statements. I happen to find them to be stupid arguments, but hey, Mr. Broun and his ilk seemed to think they were reasonable not so long ago:

1. You must not criticise president Obama during wartime. To do so is to reveal yourself as a traitor.

2. If Obama sets up a network of internal prison camps, you have nothing to fear if you have done nothing wrong.

3. We won, so suck on that!

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