# Broun: I'm not sayin' he's Hitler, but... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 11, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160 "2008-11-11T05:11:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/41 "2008-11-11T17:53:49Z")
Wow, this guy must have **really** been setting his hair on fire when the Department of Homeland Security was created! Why, I’m sure there’s **a whole archive full** of his warnings about how George W. Bush was bringing about the end of the Republic… :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/42 "2008-11-11T17:55:08Z")
> [@Baldwin](#): > > Except that Bush joked about how he’d like to be a dictator. And said “there ought to be limits to freedom.” And locked people up for years without charges or access to representation, and claimed the authority to do the same to anybody he wanted to, including you. Little things like that. Otherwise, you’re right; it’s just like that. And had people killed. I know it’s not popular to think about the suspects we “interrogated” and had other countries “interrogate” as victims, but nevertheless some of them were beaten to death as part of national policy flowing down the chain of command, despite not having stood trial for anything. Sure, they weren’t Jews. They were a different minority religion. Still, the principles of the Great Leader required a few of them to be beaten to death without trial in order to make the trains run on time. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/43 "2008-11-11T17:57:12Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I’m not saying that Paul “Little Eva” Broun is a hate-mongering self-serving racist demagogue of the sort too dickless to actually call Obama the new ‘Head Nigger in Charge’ before an audience but will say it at the drop of a hat in a room full of good ol’ boy bigots of the sort who’ve kept so many places in the South and other areas of the country backwater hellholes of low education and high poverty for generations if not since the dawn of man, I’m not comparing him to one of those kind at all. I’m just saying he looks and sounds and in every conceivable and pertinent way resembles them. That’s what YouTube is for. It gets easier and easier to covertly record this little bloviations (and even if the audience is perfectly sympatico with the speaker, there’s still the possibility that it occurred to somebody to do some of that thar blackmail tapin’ to help persuade the Rep to help Cousin Jethro get a nice job or something). ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/44 "2008-11-11T18:28:05Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > No one was elected Chancellor. Hitler was, however, “elected” chancellor, in the same way that the other Chancellors were elected…his party was the largest in the Reichstag. Simply having the largest party in the Reichstag wasn’t the goal point for being chancellor. At the time Hitler was appointed chancellor in 1933, no party had a majority. Hitler lost the presidential election to Hindenburg the year before and it was only when several other parliamentary coalitions failed that Hindenburg reluctantly agreed to form one with the Nazis along with Hitler’s demands to be made chancellor. Anyway, the point is that Broun was dead-wrong when he said Hitler was elected, in any way, shape, or form. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/45 "2008-11-11T19:33:44Z")
> [@Camus](#): > > Anyway, the point is that Broun was dead-wrong when he said Hitler was elected, in any way, shape, or form. He was wrong, but he wasn’t “dead-wrong in any way shape or form”. Hitler wasn’t elected, but the Nazis were, and, as I think I’d argued in another thread, at that point, I don’t see how any government that excluded the Nazis could have been constituted. There were no workable non-Nazi coalitions at that point, so the only other choice was for Schleichter to continue to govern by decree. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/46 "2008-11-11T19:48:29Z")
“Hitler was elected” is an accurate statement if we interpret it broadly enough to mean “Hitler came to power in a constitutional republic by lawful and constitutional means and with the support of a mass-based electoral movement”; which is generally the intended meaning anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/47 "2008-11-12T00:43:22Z")
Broun opposes Obama. So if Obama is Hitler, then Broun must be Stalin (a fellow Georgian). So the Republicans that follow Broun must be Communists. Political metaphors are fun. ---
**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/48 "2008-11-12T01:01:16Z")
I would expect this kind of statement from a random Joe Schmoe (who may or may not be a plumber), but a congressman? This guy actually takes part in important decisions in the government? Seriously, does he realize what he’s saying? Does he have any idea how the government works? It’s just baffling. Also, I don’t think any democratic congressman were issuing press releases about Bush making himself a dictator. What some random buffoon says on a message board is different than what’s said by an elected official. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/49 "2008-11-12T01:11:21Z")
[QUOTE=Rep. Douchebag] he’s proposing to have a national security force that’s answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military [/QUOTE] As opposed to the already existing U.S. military that already will be answering to him seeing as he’ll be Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces?:rolleyes: Do these dumbasses even pause for one second to analyze the feces spewing from their pieholes? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/50 "2008-11-12T01:19:52Z")
No, because then they might get some of it on themselves. The idea is to keep up the rate and the volume so the flow of the spew remains emphatically unidirectional. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/51 "2008-11-12T01:45:19Z")
It’s like I said on a thread about this at a another forum-we all know that post-WWI Germany, Russia, and Italy were all made up of totally stable, democratic governments that had endured for 200+ years, and overnight, they elected this one guy and just like that! BAM! (I love how they accuse Obama supporters of calling him the “Messiah”, but want to name every single thing after Reagan and tear up at the mere mention of him. Dude…) ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/52 "2008-11-12T01:56:46Z")
This is why we need a politics forum. A pit thread every time a politician says something that someone doesn’t agree with is starting to get old. Not that I agree with this guy or anything, but Godwin’s law is kinda dumb, and I’m sure we could talk about what he said without all the snark and namecalling. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/53 "2008-11-12T02:49:41Z")
This is not “saying something” I don’t agree with. This is an insult to citizenship. Either he believes what he is saying, and he is an ignoramus, or he doesn’t, and he is a manipulative cynic. Is there anything in either of those I am somehow obliged to respect? ---
**Author:** ![Jaglavak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@Jaglavak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaglavak)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/54 "2008-11-12T05:13:45Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I’m not saying that Paul “Little Eva” Broun is a hate-mongering self-serving racist demagogue of the sort too dickless to actually call Obama the new ‘Head Nigger in Charge’ before an audience but will say it at the drop of a hat in a room full of good ol’ boy bigots of the sort who’ve kept so many places in the South and other areas of the country backwater hellholes of low education and high poverty for generations if not since the dawn of man, I’m not comparing him to one of those kind at all. I’m just saying he looks and sounds and in every conceivable and pertinent way resembles them. Niiiice! :: golf clap :: You realize, of course, that you are not exaggerating. Who was the dim bulb congresscritter who got his dick in a wringer about 10 years back for quipping at a fundraiser, “All a n\*\*\*\*\* wants is loose shoes and a tight pussy!” I remember thinking, “So what? That about covers it for my pink butt too!” And thanks for reminding me. In spite of ancient military tradition, I am going to have to retire the phrase CMFIC for the duration. Oh well. I’ll get over it. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolas\_Bourbaki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecc23a/32.png) [@Nicolas\_Bourbaki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nicolas_Bourbaki)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/55 "2008-11-12T05:50:57Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > I’m less concerned with the comparison as I am with the choice of comparison. Marxist \*and \*Hitleristic? Come on, surely you only get to pick \*one \*there. [Not anymore.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism) You’ve got to understand; Freepers take this book to be divine, revealed truth and read it with greater fervor than they do the Bible. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/56 "2008-11-12T05:57:29Z")
You’re kidding me! Somebody exists who is so dumb they actually take the Pillsbury Buttboy seriously? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/57 "2008-11-12T06:10:19Z")
> [@Jaglavak](#): > > Who was the dim bulb congresscritter who got his dick in a wringer about 10 years back for quipping at a fundraiser, “All a n\*\*\*\*\* wants is loose shoes and a tight pussy!” I remember thinking, “So what? That about covers it for my pink butt too!” That was actually [Earl Butz](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Butz#Scandals_and_resignation), Secretary of Agriculture for Richard M. Nixon and later Gerald Ford, and it was more like thirty years ago than ten years back. One would like to think we’ve made a _little_ progress since then… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/58 "2008-11-12T06:28:55Z")
“You boys know me! Gimme a tight pussy, loose shoes, and a warm place to shit and I’m fine!” - Slim Pickens ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/59 "2008-11-12T06:34:14Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “You boys know me! Gimme a tight pussy, loose shoes, and a warm place to shit and I’m fine!” > > - Slim Pickens Hmm. I always heard that quote attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt (addressed to Queen Elizabeth II when Eleanor visited shortly after her coronation by most accounts, though most sources agree she was paraphrasing Cardinal Spellman’s notes when reserving a room at the Vatican Hilton). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/broun-im-not-sayin-hes-hitler-but/472160/60 "2008-11-12T06:43:44Z")
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