# browser test

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059
**Category:** About This Message Board
**Created:** [June 22, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059 "2007-06-22T22:15:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/1 "2007-06-22T22:15:39Z")

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[symbol]Panopticon[/symbol]  
Panopticon  
Panopticon

For some reason, these aren’t showing up in the symbol font for me. I’m using Firefox 2.0.0.4 on Windows 2000.

What’s odd is that if I take the page’s source and drop that in a blank HTML doc, it shows up properly. Must be a CSS issue.

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### Author: ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/2 "2007-06-23T01:40:13Z")

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They do show as greek characters for me. IE7 on XP.

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### Author: ![Nightsong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightsong/32/3083_2.png) [@Nightsong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightsong)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/3 "2007-06-23T02:15:11Z")

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They don’t show up as greek letters to me.

Firefox 2.0.0.4, WinXP Pro

* * *

\<\< We all live in a yellow subroutine. \>\>

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### Author: ![skotjamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@skotjamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skotjamb)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2007, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/4 "2007-06-23T02:45:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Nightsong]  
They don’t show up as greek letters to me.

Firefox 2.0.0.4, WinXP Pro

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On Firefox 2.0.0.3, it shows as courier. On IE7 and Maxthon, the letters are greek.

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### Author: ![Myglaren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Myglaren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myglaren)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/5 "2007-06-23T08:53:08Z")

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Firefox 2…0.0.4 - courier.  
Opera 9.21 - courier.  
Maxthon - Greek

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### Author: ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/6 "2007-06-23T16:35:44Z")

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Firefox 2.0.0.4, XP. They show up in my default font, Book Antiqua.

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### Author: ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/7 "2007-06-23T20:54:34Z")

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Firefox 2.0.0.4 on MacOS X. It’s greek to me.

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### Author: ![Myglaren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Myglaren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myglaren)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2007, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/8 "2007-06-24T11:57:49Z")

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Firefox 2.0.0.4 on Ubuntu Fiesty - courier.  
Epiphany on Ubuntu Fiesty - courier.  
Galeon on Ubuntu Fiesty - courier.  
Konqueror on Ubuntu Fiesty - courier.

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### Author: ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2007, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/9 "2007-06-24T12:47:35Z")

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Firefox 2.0.0.4 on Windows XP. No idea what font it is (how do I tell?), but it’s not symbol and it’s not courier (maybe Times? It’s serifed).

What’s very interesting is that there is no need to drop the page’s source into a blank HTML document - just cut and paste that word into Word and it shows up in the symbol font (I’m using Word 2003).

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### Author: ![Myglaren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Myglaren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myglaren)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2007, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/10 "2007-06-24T15:35:59Z")

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Dropped it into Abiword and it became Times New Roman.

Open Office 2 turns it into Greek

_edit to add_ - it is identified as Times, not Symbol. though.

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### Author: ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2007, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/11 "2007-06-25T01:41:49Z")

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Not quite sure what to tell you here except that vBulletin was originally written around Internet Explorer. If you choose to use another browser there’s not a lot we can do about it.

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### Author: ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/12 "2007-06-25T15:08:19Z")

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Weird, for me they show up as “Cthulhu Fhtagn Fhtagn.”

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### Author: ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/13 "2007-06-25T21:41:15Z")

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Lemme see if any of this helps –

> **[Make pages using the Symbol font display correctly in Mozilla/Firefox -...](https://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1689425)**
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> The Symbol font is often used in scientific webpages to display special symbols such as greek letters and the integral sign. For example, the HTML code ...

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### Author: ![testy\_test](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@testy\_test](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/testy_test)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2007, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/14 "2007-06-29T02:41:21Z")

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test post

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### Author: ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/15 "2007-06-29T15:34:42Z")

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See this article:

[http://www.plasmaphysics.org.uk/papers/symbolfont.htm](http://www.plasmaphysics.org.uk/papers/symbolfont.htm)

I tried it - worked for me.

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### Author: ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/16 "2007-06-29T17:31:32Z")

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Interesting. I only applied step 2 on the page **ZipperJJ** and that worked. I wonder if I’ll see any weird results down the road.

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### Author: ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)
#### Post date: [June 29, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/17 "2007-06-29T17:43:16Z")

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Woohoo, it works!

Thanks, thanks!

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### Author: ![Myglaren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Myglaren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myglaren)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/18 "2007-06-30T07:17:30Z")

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Bloody Vista won’t let me make the changes.  
I’ll try it on the XP machine later though.

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### Author: ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2007, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/19 "2007-06-30T10:53:54Z")

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Interesting: I’m using IE7 and while the characters show as Greek if I open the thread, they show as non-Greek in the preview.

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### Author: ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/browser-test/409059/20 "2007-06-30T17:48:41Z")

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The preview is set to strip HTML. What is making those letters in the symbol font is HTML:

```auto

<font face="symbol">Panopticon</font><br />
<font face="symbol">Panopticon</font><br />
<font face="Symbol">Panopticon</font><br />

```

Note that there’s also an HTML line break in there (\<br /\>) and you don’t see that in the preview either.

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