# Brutal Ukrainian serial killers sentenced (Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2009, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245 "2009-02-17T06:44:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gotterfunken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@Gotterfunken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gotterfunken)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/1 "2009-02-17T06:44:05Z")
I’m putting this in the Pit due to the goriness of the subject matter and its high potential for Recreational Outrage. I hadn’t heard anything about this case until very recently: [the Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs). There was a previous thread on this topic last year, although it didn’t get much attention: [Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs{RO} - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=496401) The wikipedia article gives a lot of the details that have emerged during the trial. To summarize: in the summer of 2007, two teenagers committed a string of 21 murders in and around the Ukrainian city of Dnepropetrovsk. They would ambush individuals, and beat them to death with hammers, screwdrivers, and other blunt instruments. They videotaped several of the murders, one of which shows the slow and agonizing death of a man named Sergei Yatzenko, who was attacked by these youths while on his way to visit his grandson. This particular video was leaked onto the internet late last year (apparently, they had videotaped several other murders of theirs, as well as their earlier experiments, which involved torturing and killing kittens–only Yatzenko’s murder has been leaked to the public, however). I’ve read a description of that video’s contents, and have absolutely no desire to see it. It apparently shows this man, already severely beaten, getting his face smashed into a bloody pulp over the course of 6 or 7 minutes. I decided to start this thread because a few days ago (Feb. 11th), the court came back with their sentences: life imprisonment for the two charged with the murders. [A third youth, a friend of the other two, was charged with armed robbery, and was sentenced to 9 years imprisonment. He was cleared of having any involvement in the murders (the armed robbery involved all three youths, but it had occurred some time before the other two boys embarked on their killing spree).] I also wanted to start this thread because the case doesn’t seem to have attracted much media attention at all in the U.S. The other thread from December didn’t have quite as much information, either, so I thought this might serve as an update. ---
**Author:** ![dgrdfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@dgrdfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dgrdfd)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/2 "2009-02-17T06:53:36Z")
Wow, that’s crazy. Sorry I don’t have anything more intelligent to add, but those are some really screwed up guys. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/3 "2009-02-17T06:54:38Z")
I saw the video a couple of months ago. It’s truly the most disturbing thing I’ve ever seen, and I can only hope their ends will be twice as grisly. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/4 "2009-02-17T07:20:44Z")
Those… monsters, should be stripped of their status as human beings and treated accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/5 "2009-02-17T07:25:29Z")
That is horrific. I can’t believe I’d never heard of them before. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/6 "2009-02-17T07:31:47Z")
I blame jazz. Jazz and cubism. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/7 "2009-02-17T08:22:46Z")
I had heard of them, but thanks for the update. I’m pretty sure life in a Ukrainian prison will be quite sufficient punishment for these two. 21 people in a month! That’s just all kinds of messed up. ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/8 "2009-02-17T11:07:34Z")
> [@Scissorjack](#): > > I blame jazz. Jazz and cubism. I don’t think you can accurately do that. They don’t get jazz over there. It would have to be the balalaika. ---
**Author:** ![butwhat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@butwhat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butwhat)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/9 "2009-02-17T11:14:28Z")
Serial killers are good for society. They cut down on urban sprawl, they help with our energy, water resource & overcrowding problems. We must train them to concentrate on Moslems, illegal immigrants & gang bangers ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/10 "2009-02-17T12:21:48Z")
> [@butwhat](#): > > Serial killers are good for society. They cut down on urban sprawl, they help with our energy, water resource & overcrowding problems. > We must train them to concentrate on Moslems, illegal immigrants & gang bangers It is pretty clear from [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=506823)that you’re a racist piece of shit. This pretty much confirms what was obvious from that other thread. Why don’t you go peddle your shit somewhere where it’s appreciated? Anyone give me an over-under on how long it takes this cretin to get banned? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/11 "2009-02-17T12:40:53Z")
No bet. My guess is that it takes 24 hours, 48 max. Fuck this racist piece of shit troll sideways with an angry hedgehog. Send it back to st-rmfr-nt where it belongs. ---
**Author:** ![Carson\_O\_Genic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Carson\_O\_Genic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carson_O_Genic)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/12 "2009-02-17T12:46:17Z")
> [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](#): > > Anyone give me an over-under on how long it takes this cretin to get banned? A simple misspelling, double T, remove the H. ---
**Author:** ![butwhat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@butwhat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butwhat)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/13 "2009-02-17T12:47:51Z")
For such loving folk you seem more than a little prejudiced & reluctant to let me have my views. That’s not very PC of you. I see being anti-moslem immigrants as being pro-national security. I see being anti - gang banger the same way. ---
**Author:** ![butwhat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@butwhat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butwhat)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/14 "2009-02-17T12:50:57Z")
I suppose you think apposing Illegal immigrants is a racist thing as apposed to an issue of national security also? Weren’t several of those involved in the 9-1 attack illegals? Here on expired visas? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/15 "2009-02-17T12:52:08Z")
> [@Carson\_O\_Genic](#): > > A simple misspelling, double T, remove the H. I don’t grok. ---
**Author:** ![butwhat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@butwhat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butwhat)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/16 "2009-02-17T12:52:48Z")
I think you people are racist and prejudiced against anybody that doesn’t share your thinking. At least I listen to what others say without attacking them for what they believe. Y’all don’t seem very PC to me. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/17 "2009-02-17T12:52:48Z")
> [@butwhat](#): > > For such loving folk you seem more than a little prejudiced & reluctant to let me have my views. > That’s not very PC of you. > I see being anti-moslem immigrants as being pro-national security. > I see being anti - gang banger the same way. It’s possible you’re really this stupid, although I doubt if the group home would really allow you so much time on the computer. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/18 "2009-02-17T13:06:19Z")
> [@butwhat](#): > > I suppose you think apposing Illegal immigrants is a racist thing as apposed to an issue of national security also? > Weren’t several of those involved in the 9-1 attack illegals? Here on expired visas? The 9-1 attack? OK, you’re playing a character. No way this is real! ---
**Author:** ![butwhat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@butwhat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butwhat)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/19 "2009-02-17T13:07:48Z")
That’s how expired their visas were. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245/20 "2009-02-17T13:17:37Z")
Obvious troll is obvious. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/brutal-ukrainian-serial-killers-sentenced-dnepropetrovsk-maniacs/486245.md?page=2)