# Bryan Ekers, why are you ignorant? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 23, 2004, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753 "2004-10-23T12:09:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/1 "2004-10-23T12:09:08Z")
Bryan Ekers, for five days I have been asking tyou to support your contention that: ‘Suggestion can have no effect on PSI performance.’ You have avoided this question every which way, but failed to answer it. You fucked up, and you are too arrogant to admit it! For documentation, see: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5393301&postcount=177](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5393301&postcount=177) nd he following posts. > [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > You never responded adequately to my first point. That you can’t assume “suggestion” would not affect PSI. > > Why do you assume that? Looks like you’re trying to escape the question again! I consider that proof (after five challenges unmet) that MY point is proven! You got proof otherwise ??? Show it! And just because your buddy, Czarcasm has disallowed polling about it in the polling forum, doesn’t mean you win. It just shows how willing Czarcasm is to “sell out”. Put up, or shut up! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/2 "2004-10-23T12:15:08Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > Looks like you’re trying to escape the question again! I consider that proof (after five challenges unmet) that MY point is proven! Argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy. “Argumentum ad ignorantiam means ‘argument from ignorance.’ The fallacy occurs when it’s argued that something must be true, simply because it hasn’t been proved false.” [http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#ignorantiam](http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#ignorantiam) Didn’t you already make enough of a fool out of yourself with your Glee thread? Is this thread just to compensate for your failure to pull Glee into your quicksand? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/3 "2004-10-23T12:27:04Z")
Oh. I found it. > **[Poll: Ekers vs. Snake](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=282473)** > > In two threads, there have been a few long running arguments entered into by many people, but the major participants are SnakeSpirit (myself) and Brian Ekers. Each of us claims a superior argument. Bryan has recommended we let the readers decide... You have now reached that level of pathetic that no longer calls for indignation, but rather pity. As we say in the South, bless your heart. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/4 "2004-10-23T12:47:57Z")
Ah…use of the ultimate _old lady_ insult I see. He’s really not all there is he? Bless his heart. 😉 BTW I wasn’t actually referring to the OP. It was just an example ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/5 "2004-10-23T13:19:04Z")
Oboy, Oboy, Oboy! My second pitting! And the first one doesn’t really count because it was closed before I even knew about it. Annoyingly, though, it ran to three pages, which is longer than any thread I’ve ever started, though many of the posts were the incoherent ramblings of a guy that got banned sooned afterward anyway. Anyhoo… (reading the OP)… That’s _IT?_ I came all this way for _THAT?_ I haven’t felt this let down since the end of _Contact_. You’re just rehashing (in some cases word-for-word) the same crap that you had in the GD threads. Geez, this is the Pit, you stupid stupid fuck! You’ve got carte blanche to throw insults and the best you could do is “arrogant” ?! At least put some _effort_ into it! Anyway, the Pit isn’t the place for proof (that’s GD). It’s the place for fuh-LAMING, and I had to hold back in GD, but not here! You’re some kinda credulous moron, aren’t you? You’re so eager to believe in PSI that you checked your brain at the door. This normally wouldn’t be a problem, but you’re trying to get us to dumb down to your level and actually BUH-lieve that Uri Geller is some kinda superpowerful mutant, instead of a rather successful con artist. How _dare_ you dismiss the scientific method?! How _dare_ you shrug oFf reason as a minor barrier to the DEEP DARK MYSTERIES OF PSI ENERGY! Don’t you realize that people _suffered_ fighting superstitious bullshit? You OWE them for your comfortable modern existence, you ungrateful shitball. If Galileo were alive, I’d gladly cheer him on as he slowly drove a spiked pendulum up your ass, screaming “Nevertheless, is it moving?! NEVERTHELESS, IS IT MOVING?! ANSWER ME BEEYOTCH, IS IT MOVING?!” I’m not a psychic. I’ve never claimed to be a psychic. But I shall predict your fate… hmmmm… you will die from choking to death on your own tongue when your last brain cell dies of lonliness. BOO-yah, that felt good! ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/6 "2004-10-23T13:21:28Z")
It’s the Vietnam Veteran v. the Canadian Communications Officer (reserve) in a battle royale over… _paranormal activity_? And the guy with a badge of a naked white guy is winning by _not saying anything_? **Snake** , do yourself a favour, go to the library and take out a couple books. Read 'em, then come back to the boards refreshed. I fear you’re on the verge of getting yourself ignored by everyone you come across. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/7 "2004-10-23T14:18:19Z")
**Snakespirit** , you are a weasely, chickenshit, mealy-mouthed, jack-leg, worthless, lying, BB brained, cretinous blowhard. You can’t even argue with the likes of _me_ without resorting to equivocation, innuendo, appeals to ignorance, and denial. Against **Bryan Ekers** you got no chance. Come back when you grow up girl. You speak as if you had a tissue paper rectum. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/8 "2004-10-23T14:25:20Z")
Message to **SnakeSpirit** : no one gives a rat’s ass, especially. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/9 "2004-10-23T14:53:10Z")
1. He didn’t ask for a poll. 2. What you tried to start in IMHO could not be _considered_ a poll. 3. Hi, **Liberal**! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/10 "2004-10-23T15:15:13Z")
I sense, in some paranormal fashion, that this could make the Top Ten of Pittings That Did Not Go Well. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/11 "2004-10-23T15:24:02Z")
This really is hilarious. **Bryan Ekers** has routinely been cleaning **SnakeSpirit’s** clock (for those of you without the stomach to plow through those turgid threads). Then **SnakeSpirit** comes back with what I can only assume he thinks are witty, on-target responses. Some of these responses are logic disasters, showing that he doesn’t even _begin_ to understand how confused his thinking is. Some of the responses don’t address the points that have been made at all. The remainder of the responses wander into the incoherent, and leave me wondering, “Crack or meth?” He still doesn’t understand why no one has to prove that “suggestion has no effect on psi performance.” It still hasn’t dawned on him that “psi performance” has not been shown to exist in the first place, so to discuss what will, or will not, affect it is premature, to put it charitably. I make note of the fact that **SnakeSpirit** isn’t trying to pit **Abe** , who’s been giving **SnakeSpirit’s** clock a complete overhaul. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/12 "2004-10-23T15:25:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > 1. Hi, **Liberal**! Howdy, neighbor! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/13 "2004-10-23T15:51:19Z")
[QUOTE=Early Out] . > [@](#): > > I make note of the fact that **SnakeSpirit** isn’t trying to pit **Abe** , who’s been giving **SnakeSpirit’s** clock a complete overhaul. Oh he may be confused and perhaps a little dishonest, but he’s way too smart to pit **Abe**. I woudn’t pit **Abe** with a ten foot pole. This just in!–Louis Kowalski, a ten foot Pole, said he wouldn’t pit **Abe** either. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/14 "2004-10-23T20:28:50Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > You OWE them for your comfortable modern existence, you ungrateful shitball. If Galileo were alive, I’d gladly cheer him on as he slowly drove a spiked pendulum up your ass, screaming “Nevertheless, is it moving?! NEVERTHELESS, IS IT MOVING?! ANSWER ME BEEYOTCH, IS IT MOVING?!” Bravo sir. That is a thing of sheer beauty. Take a bow **Brian.** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/15 "2004-10-23T23:18:41Z")
I waas going to defend Bryan, but I see he doesn’t need any help. 😃 Perhaps we could form an exclusive club: - those who have been Pitted by Snakespirit. Our badge would show Snakespirit in a boxing ring, having just taken an almighty swing and missed. Our motto could be something from baseball like “he swings! he misses!” At our annual dinner, we could watch Snakespirit eat his own words. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/16 "2004-10-24T00:53:10Z")
The proof of PSI not existing can be tested quite easily. For the next day, everybody focus on making Snake intelligent and articulate. Let’s see if it works. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/17 "2004-10-24T00:57:05Z")
PSI really does exist, and [I’ve got the proof!!!](http://www.petsit.com/) ---
**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/18 "2004-10-24T01:26:26Z")
That was cute, **Out.** Very amusing. What is even more amusing, however, is watching this group of sick fucks jerk off in public and then pat each other on the back like they really believe they’ve done something special and clever. Please don’t stop – your audience is alternately in stitches and in honest pity of you. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/19 "2004-10-24T01:29:11Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > Please don’t stop – your audience is alternately in stitches and in honest pity of you. A more ironically apropos comment has rarely been made. ---
**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/20 "2004-10-24T01:32:15Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy. > > “Argumentum ad ignorantiam means ‘argument from ignorance.’ The fallacy occurs when it’s argued that something must be true, simply because it hasn’t been proved false.” > > Didn’t you already make enough of a fool out of yourself with your Glee thread? Is this thread just to compensate for your failure to pull Glee into your quicksand? You misunderstand, **Lib.** After avoiding the question five times, it is proof that he is avoiding answering the question. And **glee** is already in the quicksand. This thread is just to pit Bryan for being a worm. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753.md?page=2)