# Bryan Ekers, why are you ignorant? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 23, 2004, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753 "2004-10-23T12:09:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/41 "2004-10-24T11:25:22Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > And now you’re further trying to get a rise out of me, something you’re pretty skilled at, I admit. I eagerly await the day when you’re finally banned; it’s much overdue. “Finally”? You make it sound as though I’ve come close. I recently was told by Xash not to make political comments in GQ; fair enough. But I’ve never gotten an e-mail from a mod, and never received a threat. So sorry to disappoint you. Perhaps you with your eagerness to have posters in good standing get banned, perhaps you with your name-calling (“troll”) will precede me in entering the Land of the Banned. How does that sound, **Priceguy**? And I still don’t understand what I did to earn your enmity, but I hardly care. You’re evidently a first-class asshole who are free, I assure you, to kiss my ass. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/42 "2004-10-24T11:51:33Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > You make it sound as though I’ve come close. I recently was told by Xash not to make political comments in GQ; fair enough. But I’ve never gotten an e-mail from a mod, and never received a threat. I know. I just don’t understand _why_, is all. > [@](#): > > And I still don’t understand what I did to earn your enmity Yes you do, you snivelling little shit. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/43 "2004-10-24T12:26:34Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > I know. I just don’t understand _why_, is all. > > Yes you do, you snivelling little shit. Sorry, I don’t. Did we disagree on the paranormal? Fine, then we disagree. Did I insult you at some point–really and truly? I doubt it. Honestly, I would be much more angry at you if I knew why you’re angry with me. Why don’t we just agree not to hate each other? So much simpler. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/44 "2004-10-24T13:11:23Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Did we disagree on the paranormal? Officially? Yes. Sincerely, from your side? No. > [@](#): > > Did I insult you at some point–really and truly? I doubt it. You doubt wrong. > [@](#): > > Why don’t we just agree not to hate each other? So much simpler. Simpler than what? I don’t care what you think of me. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/45 "2004-10-24T13:17:14Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > Officially? Yes. Sincerely, from your side? No. You doubt I believe that psi, ghosts, and the afterlife are real? Have I ever said different on this board? > [@](#): > > Simpler than what? I don’t care what you think of me. Sorry, I still don’t understand what our conflict is supposed to be. ---
**Author:** ![coop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/87869e/32.png) [@coop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coop)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/46 "2004-10-24T13:23:04Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Don’t sell yourself short, dude-you’re halfway there already. classic 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/47 "2004-10-24T14:08:11Z")
Checking back on this thread, my first post makes more sense if people realize that I was simulposted. Damn me for failing to preview! ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/48 "2004-10-24T16:59:18Z")
[QUOTE=duffer] If my shit ever gets this weak, and then insult everyone that calls me out on it, I’ll just have to leave in shame. [QUOTE] Is that a promise? Your shit’s pretty damn weak… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/49 "2004-10-24T18:43:00Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > [**SnakeSpirit**] is a man of sense, humor, experience, and, above all, _life_. It is one thing for any of you to disagree with him on this or that–so what, you have a difference of opinion. Boy, you really will believe _anything_, won’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/50 "2004-10-24T21:00:37Z")
Hey! Aeschines and Priceguy, this thread was supposed to be about _me!_ Just kidding. Aeschines, you haven’t established yourself as sufficiently intelligent or wise to talk down to anyone here, but I guess if that’s all the ammunition you have, you may as well use it, poor kid. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/51 "2004-10-24T22:17:37Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > Aeschines, you haven’t established yourself as sufficiently intelligent or wise to talk down to anyone here, but I guess if that’s all the ammunition you have, you may as well use it, poor kid. Tell me about it! **Aeschines** : Keep typing things like what you are saying here, and there will be a second chapter of this: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=236377&highlight=Aeschines](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=236377&highlight=Aeschines) > [@Aeschines](#): > > I don’t understand. I like Snake; I think he’s a good guy. I maintain consistent positions on this board; I’m the farthest thing from a troll. And I’m pretty nice to people, too. If anyone reads the linked thread in that pit rant, you will find why what **Aeschines** just said here deserves a :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Whence the absurd and irrational acrimony, friend? Perhaps you should check in to your local sanitarium for treatment of your personality disorder. :o Pretty nice to people? Here, you are being a :wally ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/52 "2004-10-24T22:32:40Z")
First **glee** , now **Bryan Ekers**. Looks like getting pitted by **SnakeSpirit** is going to be a badge of honor, soon. You know, **Liberal** , I’d be offended if I were you. So far, despite your best efforts, **S.S.** has not pitted you. Maybe he doesn’t like you. 😉 Now, **S.S.** , you ask why Bryan is ignorant. He’s ignorant for the same reason we’re all ignorant. No one can know everything. We aren’t perfect. So everyone is ignorant of something; it’s not an insult. But where Bryan, glee, and pretty much everyone on this board differ from you is we don’t wallow in our ignorance. We seek to expand our knowledge of life, the universe, and everything. And to do this in a meaningful fashion we require _proof_. Real proof, from real experiments with real controls performed in the real world. Because only in that fashion can we really all agree on what’s what. Doing it your way is just people talking to one another, and whoever yells the loudest gets “believed”. It’s quite sad, really, how little you understand the world around you and lash out at those who dare to disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/53 "2004-10-24T22:53:06Z")
> [@Ponder Stibbons](#): > > You know, **Liberal** , I’d be offended if I were you. So far, despite your best efforts, **S.S.** has not pitted you. Maybe he doesn’t like you. 😉 Weaping… copious tears. ---
**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/54 "2004-10-24T23:04:54Z")
I have no affiliation with **SnakeSpirit**. I don’t recognize the name at all. I do recognize the name **Bryan Ekers** , and as far as I’m concerned the guy is a rude, contemptuous, ill-mannered, slack-jawed fuck-nut. First he’ll give you an arrogant, condescending, derisive, “uh, yeah”. Then it’s off to nit-pick land, followed by some hair-splitting. Finally, when the voice of public opinion and the face of logic overwhelmingly prove him wrong, he disappears. If there’s one thing I can’t abide it’s a person who can’t admit when they’re wrong, and won’t apologize for rude [behaviour](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=277824). So, **Bryan Ekers** , until you come up with some common courtesy, **fuck you, you fuckin’ mook**. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/55 "2004-10-24T23:09:38Z")
> [@coven](#): > > If there’s one thing I can’t abide it’s a person who can’t admit when they’re wrong, and won’t apologize for rude [behaviour](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=277824). Uh, yeah. Except that he was right. ---
**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/56 "2004-10-24T23:19:45Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Uh, yeah. Except that he was right. Please explain how [this](http://www-tech.mit.edu/Shakespeare/cleopatra/cleopatra.5.2.html) is not a famous literary suicide. What, it doesn’t count because there is a historical person named **Cleopatra**? Shakespeare is literature. The suicide in the link is literary. I’m always willing to learn, show me where I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/57 "2004-10-25T00:00:08Z")
> [@coven](#): > > I have no affiliation with **SnakeSpirit**. I don’t recognize the name at all. I do recognize the name **Bryan Ekers** , and as far as I’m concerned the guy is a rude, contemptuous, ill-mannered, slack-jawed fuck-nut. Whaddaya mean, slack-jawed? > [@](#): > > First he’ll give you an arrogant, condescending, derisive, “uh, yeah”. Then it’s off to nit-pick land, followed by some hair-splitting. Finally, when the voice of public opinion and the face of logic overwhelmingly prove him wrong, he disappears. On the other hand, there’s something to be said for making a cogent point, defending it logically, then ceasing to post after it’s clear there’s nothing more to be gained by useless exchanges with the type of poster who considers himself “the voice of public opinion and the face of logic”. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/58 "2004-10-25T00:25:54Z")
> [@coven](#): > > Please explain how [this](http://www-tech.mit.edu/Shakespeare/cleopatra/cleopatra.5.2.html) is not a famous literary suicide. What, it doesn’t count because there is a historical person named **Cleopatra**? Pretty much, yeah. The thread wanted famous literary suicides, not just famous suicides. Any famous suicide is going to be reproduced in some work of art, somewhere, which I think would lead to a broader discussion than the OP of that thread intended. Of course, unless **astorian** registered his opinion on the subject, there’s no way either side of the debate can be proven to be right. And can I mention how hilarious it is that you’re carrying a grudge over this? I mean, you and **Bryan** disagreed over the precise implications of the word “literary.” So far as I can tell skimming the thread for posts from the two of you, it was done in an entirely civil manner. And you go from that to “rude, contemptuous, ill-mannered, slack-jawed fuck-nut”? Holy crap, dude. Cafe Society is a debate thread. Debate involves disagreement. Disagreement is often left unresolved. **Bryan** stated his opinion, you stated yours. Neither of you were persuasive enough to convince the other of his position. This is something you need to get this pissed off about? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/59 "2004-10-25T01:08:01Z")
Uh oh, I hear Snake’s keeping a list of certain persons that offend him. ---
**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753/60 "2004-10-25T02:01:54Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > It’s funny. In real life, I know a lot of people who believe in psychic powers, the supernatural, and New Ageism in general. And they’re all really cool people. Decent, friendly, respectful, and intelligent, every single one of them. I’m talking about some of my closest, oldest, dearest friends, here. > > And yet, online, the only people I ever see who defend this stuff are vengeful, deceptive, duplicitous, hypocritical morons. What’s with that? Isn’t that funny! That’s exactly what I see in the anti-psi-possibility crowd! It’s those folks who first start throwing the “slings and arrows” and move to outrageous claims to support their religion and start the name-calling, degredation, assumptions, hypocricy and then deny, deny, deny and trot away to hide behind a wall of cutsie put-downs. Few people here have as much integrity as **Aeschines.**** coven** puts forth a reasonable argument and gets razzing instead of reasonable replies. People like you, Miller, are seriously deluded and sorely in need of a real life. Just cause your little “gang of 11” supports you, you think you’re right. When in FACT YOU DON’T HAVE A CLUE. Clueless. hey you can always change your names: clueless 1, clueless 2… etc. Dorks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-why-are-you-ignorant/270753.md?page=4)