# Bryan Ekers, you are a thread-pissing dumbfuck

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 25, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864 "2006-03-25T17:11:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/101 "2006-03-25T22:51:10Z")

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{{{{rayh}}}}

You get the same number of hugs as **duffer**.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/102 "2006-03-25T22:51:19Z")

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Huh. Looks like the basis of a contribution to [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=362905)

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/103 "2006-03-25T22:54:39Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Good post, **Bryan Ekers**. Reasonable, eloquent, and well-written. I officially take back my “fuck you.” In fact, you’re an alright guy.
> 
> I agree with you about both Bush and Kerry, btw.
> 
> Hugs all 'round, everybody?

So: This whole pitting was just a joke, was it? Just a stunt to stir some shit for your own amusement? You truly are cast in the same mold as **drmark2000** and **mwas**. Please, do continue to follow the path they blazed.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/104 "2006-03-25T23:00:45Z")

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Awwww shit. I post that then peace breaks out. It’s not fucking fair I tell you!

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/105 "2006-03-25T23:01:31Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> So: This whole pitting was just a joke, was it? Just a stunt to stir some shit for your own amusement? You truly are cast in the same mold as **drmark2000** and **mwas**. Please, do continue to follow the path they blazed.

Calling all mods! Callings all mods! Suspend Aeschines! Ban him! Exterminate! Exterminate!

To answer your question: No. **Bryan** explained his perspective, actually acknowledging and responding to the points I made, which is something that his superficial defenders never bothered to do (except, after a fasion, **John Mace** ). He could have just come in here and been a dick, but he took what I had to say seriously. That really earns my respect.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/106 "2006-03-25T23:04:51Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> So: This whole pitting was just a joke, was it? Just a stunt to stir some shit for your own amusement? You truly are cast in the same mold as **drmark2000** and **mwas**. Please, do continue to follow the path they blazed.

“It was a joke” is SOP for that crew when the noose tightens up a bit.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/107 "2006-03-25T23:07:24Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> “It was a joke” is SOP for that crew when the noose tightens up a bit.

Cite? Both of those guys stuck to their positions pretty hard, especially the Doctor.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/108 "2006-03-25T23:10:28Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> No, it just proves that you’re a member of the Tool Crew.
> 
> Fuck off!

No amount of hugs can help me get over the hurt you inflicted on me with this. You have sunk my morale to new lows and I fear I shall never recover.

Do you use this same tactic after you beat your puppy? Or worse? Sounds like a pattern.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/109 "2006-03-25T23:15:31Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> No amount of hugs can help me get over the hurt you inflicted on me with this. You have sunk my morale to new lows and I fear I shall never recover.

I apologize. Keep in mind that love conquers all. Those hugs will kick in in about 20 minutes.

> [@](#):
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> Do you use this same tactic after you beat your puppy? Or worse? Sounds like a pattern.

No. At the end of the day, I’m just not a good hater.

{{{{duffer}}}}

Booster shot!

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/110 "2006-03-25T23:17:35Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> At the end of the day, I’m just not a good hater.

Don’t sell yourself short. Judging by your posts on the SDMB, you excel at it.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/111 "2006-03-25T23:19:40Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Cite? Both of those guys stuck to their positions pretty hard, especially the Doctor.

You said so yourself, in the “Left Behind” pit thread.

> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Mswas is joking, you dolts.

And again, in the same thread, referring to GD thread–

> [@Aeschines](#):
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> The rest of what he’s saying both in this thread and the one in GD is a mix of humor, fantasy, and solid (earthen/airy/fiery/watery) New Age thinking. The “joke” is on a lot of people here, not only because they are not getting the literal jokes in the threads but because they are incapable of not tripping over their twisted panties when trying to approach mswas’s multifaceted/contingent/quantum/ambivalent (cat dead/undead per Schrodinger) thinking with mechanistic/Newtonian approaches.

So I guess my cite is you.

Of course, this is the same thread you abandoned when things got a little dicey and you realized defending him was a losing proposition.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/112 "2006-03-25T23:22:31Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> he took what I had to say seriously

Actually… I didn’t. Don’t let the absence of profanity mislead you; my contempt for you is quite profound. I suppose if I _had_ come in guns blazing, you would not now be engaged in this bizarre and unconvincing reversal of attitude, but rather adding more posts to this thread at a frantic pace, using quotes from my response to “prove” your point to no-one’s satisfaction but your own.

I have, in fact, been composing the gist of my earlier reply for months, in case I was ever Pitted (again) and thus given an opportunity to talk about my posting style and cite some of my favourite quips. You’ve given me the opportunity but your claimed new-found respect for me will not soften in the least my stance against your particular variety of superstition and pseudoscience, even if I believed you, which I do not. Make of that what you will, including viewing yourself as a martyr if you wish.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/113 "2006-03-25T23:25:33Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Don’t sell yourself short. Judging by your posts on the SDMB, you excel at it.

{{{{Miller}}}}

Au contraire.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/114 "2006-03-25T23:31:16Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> You said so yourself, in the “Left Behind” pit thread. […] So I guess my cite is you.

First of all, **mswas** never called his thread a joke himself. I said that there were jokes within the thread.

Second, there is a difference between a Pit thread comprising a joke and being a “joke thread,” which is considered a violation of SDMB rules. I don’t think any of us in “that crew” have ever done a “joke Pit thread.”

> [@](#):
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> Of course, this is the same thread you abandoned when things got a little dicey and you realized defending him was a losing proposition.

I don’t remember if that was the case or not, but I certainly didn’t defend **mswas** universally, found some of his posts racist and offensive, and regret that he couldn’t combine his insights into a more rational overall perspective.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/115 "2006-03-25T23:36:29Z")

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By the way, here’s a quip that I made in GQ (re: the original marshmallows in _Lucky Charms_ cereal) [and it went over quite well.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6447101#post6447101) It was nominated for “Best Ever in a Breakfast-related food thread”.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/116 "2006-03-25T23:38:11Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Actually… I didn’t.

_De facto_, you did. You responded directly and cogently to my points. If that isn’t “taking them seriously,” then what is?

> [@](#):
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> Don’t let the absence of profanity mislead you; my contempt for you is quite profound.

I disagree.

> [@](#):
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> I suppose if I _had_ come in guns blazing, you would not now be engaged in this bizarre and unconvincing reversal of attitude, but rather adding more posts to this thread at a frantic pace, using quotes from my response to “prove” your point to no-one’s satisfaction but your own.

As far as I’m concerned, your post was a validation of my OP stated in a very reasonable and rational tone. So indeed I am satisfied. And we have set the stage for many reasonable and mutually respectful interactions in the future.

> [@](#):
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> I have, in fact, been composing the gist of my earlier reply for months, in case I was ever Pitted (again) and thus given an opportunity to talk about my posting style and cite some of my favourite quips.

I’m glad that that came in handy for you.

> [@](#):
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> You’ve given me the opportunity but your claimed new-found respect for me will not soften in the least my stance against your particular variety of superstition and pseudoscience, even if I believed you, which I do not.

What’s not to believe? As for disagreeing with me vigorously, I would expect nothing less. That’s what the SDMB is for.

> [@](#):
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> Make of that what you will, including viewing yourself as a martyr if you wish.

An unwounded man cannot be a martyr.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/117 "2006-03-25T23:40:52Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> First of all, **mswas** never called his thread a joke himself. I said that there were jokes within the thread.
> 
> Second, there is a difference between a Pit thread comprising a joke and being a “joke thread,” which is considered a violation of SDMB rules. I don’t think any of us in “that crew” have ever done a "joke Pit thread.

All well and good but a bit off point. I never accused anyone of starting a “joke thread.” (Nice attempt at misdirection, by the way.) I said that the claim “I was joking” was used as an escape from a logically tenuous position.

I provided two cites, both from you. You claimed he was joking in the Pit thread. You also claimed -

> [@](#):
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> The rest of what he’s saying both in this thread and the one in GD is a mix of humor, fantasy, and solid (earthen/airy/fiery/watery) New Age thinking. The “joke” is on a lot of people here, not only because they are not getting the literal jokes in the threads but because they are incapable of not tripping over their twisted panties when trying to approach mswas’s multifaceted/contingent/quantum/ambivalent (cat dead/undead per Schrodinger) thinking with mechanistic/Newtonian approaches.

-in reference to a **GD** thread (it is right there in your first sentence.)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/118 "2006-03-25T23:41:33Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> By the way, here’s a quip that I made in GQ (re: the original marshmallows in _Lucky Charms_ cereal) [and it went over quite well.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6447101#post6447101) It was nominated for “Best Ever in a Breakfast-related food thread”.

Oh dear. You haven’t quit your day job, have you?

😃

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/119 "2006-03-25T23:49:46Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> All well and good but a bit off point. I never accused anyone of starting a “joke thread.” (Nice attempt at misdirection, by the way.) I said that the claim “I was joking” was used as an escape from a logically tenuous position.

I did not intend to misdirect. I got your post confused with **ReadyTeddy’s**. Mea culpa.

> [@](#):
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> I provided two cites, both from you. You claimed he was joking in the Pit thread. You also claimed --in reference to a **GD** thread (it is right there in your first sentence.)

OK, but, again, a post that includes jokes or ribbing or whatever is not the same thing as saying, “I was just goofing around,” to backpedal, etc., per your comment about “SOP.”

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bryan-ekers-you-are-a-thread-pissing-dumbfuck/349864/120 "2006-03-25T23:53:25Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> He could have just come in here and been a dick,

Unlike someone else I could name.

> [@](#):
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> but he took what I had to say seriously.

That’d be hard to do.

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> That really earns my respect.

I’m sure he’s thrilled.

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