# BS moderating.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [December 5, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099 "2011-12-05T04:35:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/1 "2011-12-05T04:35:27Z")

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This thread:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14528985#post14528985](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14528985#post14528985)

. . . was posted in GQ.

It was totally inappropriate for GQ, which Colibri, a moderator acknowledged.

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> Since it requires speculation, this thread wasn’t really appropriate for General Questions in the first place. It would have been better for IMHO. But considering it’s become such a train wreck, I’m just going to close it instead of inflicting it on the IMHO mods.

(It was really better intended for MPSIMS).

So, I’ve gotten a official warning because I “made a personal insult”. This was my insult:

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> If you want to stick your fat nose into celebrity marriages go to the supermarket and buy a stack of tabloids.

Huh??? That’s a personal insult?

Somebody explain to me WTF is going on here.

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/2 "2011-12-05T04:52:57Z")

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Your entire participation in that thread was ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/3 "2011-12-05T04:56:56Z")

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Yeah, that’s clearly a personal insult, as well as a personal attack. You obviously intended it as such. Since you’ve been around awhile, and should know the [rules](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697044&postcount=10) (having been warned about personal insults before), I made it a warning instead of a note.

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> Are there any rules on insulting other posters?  
> Generally, you may not directly insult or personally attack other posters.

Some rules violations are more serious than others. Personal insults are a serious violation and will usually get a warning. Other rules violations, such as posting a thread in the wrong forum, are minor and will normally not even get a note unless the poster is persistent about it.

If you believe a thread is in the wrong forum, or you have some other problem with it, the appropriate thing to do is to is to report it and let the moderators handle it. Even your first post was inappropriate for GQ.

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/4 "2011-12-05T05:02:33Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> Your entire participation in that thread was ridiculous.

“ridiculous”

It was pertinent. I’ve been married (my only marriage) to the same person for multiple decades. I know something about the dynamic of marriage and how it is really only between the two partners. Marriage on day one isn’t the same as marriage multiple years later. No one outside the marriage can judge.

Stay TFO of peoples marriages. The marriage contract is between the partners and is none of your business.

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/5 "2011-12-05T05:17:42Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Yeah, that’s clearly a personal insult, as well as a personal attack. You obviously intended it as such. Since you’ve been around awhile, and should know the [rules](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697044&postcount=10) (having been warned about personal insults before), I made it a warning instead of a note.
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> Some rules violations are more serious than others. Personal insults are a serious violation and will usually get a warning. Other rules violations, such as posting a thread in the wrong forum, are minor and will normally not even get a note unless the poster is persistent about it.
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> If you believe a thread is in the wrong forum, or you have some other problem with it, the appropriate thing to do is to is to report it and let the moderators handle it. Even your first post was inappropriate for GQ.

Cummon Colibri, you admitted that the post was in the wrong forum. My initial post was intended to be informative because there was never going to be a “factual answer” unless Bill and/or Hillary came on the board and submitted sworn testimony. Don’t make me the fall guy for making a “call out”. The mods were asleep on this one. Nevertheless, my initial response was pretty mild considering the acrimony that a “guest” of our Board sent my way.

I vehemently deny that

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> If you want to stick your fat nose into celebrity marriages go to the supermarket and buy a stack of tabloids.

is a personal insult or was intended to be one. Your presumption of my intention is totally wrong. That observation was more factual than the question in the OP.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/6 "2011-12-05T05:18:26Z")

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Dude, you used the word “fat”. Are you completely unaware of the butthurt rage that word causes on this board?

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/7 "2011-12-05T05:20:03Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Dude, you used the word “fat”. Are you completely unaware of the butthurt rage that word causes on this board?

I wanted to use the word “pointy” but thought that might be worse. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/8 "2011-12-05T05:31:09Z")

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I might be inclined to agree with what you’re saying, but that thread was neither the time nor the place for those opinions, R. P. McMurphy.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/9 "2011-12-05T05:42:32Z")

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The warning was well deserved—and would have been given in any forum on the board other than the Pit.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/10 "2011-12-05T06:09:44Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> Huh??? That’s a personal insult?

Yes. Happy to clear that up for you.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/11 "2011-12-05T06:12:29Z")

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It was his humble opinion that it’s not our business what the former President and the current Secretary of State are up to.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/12 "2011-12-05T07:43:24Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> Cummon Colibri, you admitted that the post was in the wrong forum. My initial post was intended to be informative because there was never going to be a “factual answer” unless Bill and/or Hillary came on the board and submitted sworn testimony.

There are plenty of factual answers to the question, many of which were posted in the thread. Interviews with Bill or Hillary about their marriage, current living arrangements, whether Bill is still riding around in Ron Burkle’s fuck-plane.

Just because you think people should not speculate or discuss other people’s marriage doesn’t mean it’s wrong to do so. They are public figures of the highest order. It’s natural to wonder.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/13 "2011-12-05T08:00:13Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> Huh??? That’s a personal insult?
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> Somebody explain to me WTF is going on here.

Not to pile on - just adding my 2¢ - I think the modding was spot on and, yes, that’s clearly a personal insult.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/14 "2011-12-05T08:49:16Z")

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You conjecture on whether someone is ugly and demean the way they spend their time when you’re _not_ trying to be rude or insulting? Yikes. You may want to brush up on the social skills.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/15 "2011-12-05T09:04:43Z")

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> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> Huh??? That’s a personal insult?

What do you think an insult is?

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**Author:** ![Batfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Batfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batfish)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/16 "2011-12-05T11:44:34Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> …Even your first post was inappropriate for GQ.

You stated this in your warning post also, and I didn’t understand why. Can you explain that for me?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/17 "2011-12-05T11:54:49Z")

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> [@Batfish](#):
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> You stated this in your warning post also, and I didn’t understand why. Can you explain that for me?

It was finger-wagging at everyone who posted. Certainly not appropriate for a thread that was in GQ.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/18 "2011-12-05T12:43:38Z")

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I will mention also that saying Bill Clinton is not known for his commitment to the truth is not a political jab - it is a factual statement, and entirely appropriate to GQ.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/19 "2011-12-05T13:27:56Z")

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I would add a qualifier: Bill Clinton is not known for his commitment to the truth during his terms in office. (That doesn’t let him off the hook. I just don’t know if he continues the dishonesty or if he has changed his wicked ways.)

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bs-moderating/605099/20 "2011-12-05T14:11:45Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> Your entire participation in that thread was ridiculous.

> [@R.P.McMurphy](#):
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> “ridiculous”
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> It was pertinent. I’ve been married (my only marriage) to the same person for multiple decades. I know something about the dynamic of marriage and how it is really only between the two partners. Marriage on day one isn’t the same as marriage multiple years later. No one outside the marriage can judge.
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> Stay TFO of peoples marriages. The marriage contract is between the partners and is none of your business.

Nope, still ridiculous.  
The OP had a valid question to which there are factual answers about the status of the Clintons’ marriage. Your comments about prying or interfering were unwarranted and way over the top.

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> \*\*What is the state of Roth/Van Halen reunion? \*\*  
> Are they still recording together? Anybody seen them together since the reunion tour in 2007? etc…???
> 
> Thanks, sh

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> **R.I.P. McMurphy writes:**
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> Stay out of other people’s bands.
> 
> Managing one’s own is difficult enough. David and Eddy are both very ambitious people and that has worked out for both of them. It seems that the recording contract that they have between each other (whatever that is) has served to benefit both of them. They probably have a great deal of admiration for each other have worked it out between them. That’s their business and none of ours.
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> Van Hagar looked like the ideal couple while the original line-up looked like a divorce in the waiting. Which marriage has survived? It seems to tell me that on some level they have a basic mutual respect for each other and want to stay together for whatever their reasons are. I would think that if they were going to break up it would have happened by now.
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> It’s really none of our business.

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