# BSG: Season 3, Episode 14: "The Woman King"--Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 12, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787 "2007-02-12T00:22:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/1 "2007-02-12T00:22:48Z")
Didn’t see a spoiler thread for this week yet, so I started one. Standard courtesies apply–if it’s speculative or already aired, it’s fair game. Otherwise, please be kind. From the Battlestar Wiki, the overview for this week is: \*Helo investigates the claims of Sagittarons that a doctor is discriminating against them by providing substandard medical care whilst news of Baltar’s impending trial sparks civil unrest in the fleet. \* > **[The Woman King](https://en.battlestarwiki.org/The_Woman_King)** > > Information from the podast: Hoping it is better than last week… ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/2 "2007-02-12T00:34:07Z")
I am so eager to get back home and watch the episode! I’m working right now and would much rather be enmeshed in the BSG universe. Weeee! – IG ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/3 "2007-02-12T00:41:20Z")
Is “Sagittarons” from the first series? ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/4 "2007-02-12T00:54:30Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Is “Sagittarons” from the first series? [/QUOTE] Sagittaron is one of the colony names, a slanting of the word Sagitarius. They initially hinted at unrest between colonies, being different planets and all - the cultures differed widely. They then proceeded to glance over it all and it looks like they’ll be bringing it back to focus, at least for this episode, in the form of medical discrimination. – IG ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/5 "2007-02-12T03:08:16Z")
So the Sagittarons don’t believe in medicine? I’m going to go out on a limb :dubious: and say they either are the cause or suspected of being the cause of an epidemic. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/6 "2007-02-12T03:08:47Z")
Survivor count: 41, 401 Pretty close to what it was last time, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/7 "2007-02-12T03:19:26Z")
So, I’m missing something - where are these people coming from? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/8 "2007-02-12T03:26:45Z")
Inner-Baltar’s back. So how long will it take everyone to realize that they’ve seen Baltar doing the same weird stuff 6 is doing now? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/9 "2007-02-12T03:32:47Z")
“Better have the Doc look at the hand.” Tigh is tough. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/10 "2007-02-12T03:37:22Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] “Better have the Doc look at the hand.” Tigh is tough. [/QUOTE] I love fuckin’ Tigh. He is a bad ass. My patience is also running out with Helo’s attitude. How does he keep getting away with this insubordination? As Tigh pointed out it, it comes off as downright giving succor to the enemy. He’s a jerk prone to self-righteous mysticism. The ep’s only half over, maybe it’ll turn my opinion of him around by the end, but I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/11 "2007-02-12T03:41:15Z")
Did Helo just say ‘fucking’ instead of ‘fracking’? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/12 "2007-02-12T03:51:38Z")
Roberts sure as hell has some balls if he’s willing to murder the daughter-in-law of the supreme commander of the fleet. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/13 "2007-02-12T03:55:46Z")
So of course Helo is right. Always. Even though his attitude is completely ridiculous. Frakking (and fucking) annoying. I so wanted him to be wrong this time and get a giant head-check. Ah well, shoulda known it’d never happen. Still don’t like him though. It would have been more dramatically interesting if Dr. Robert was not actually killing Sagittarons, just letting them die by not treating them. Or refusing to treat them because they were violently opposing their own care. Then it might have been a moral quandary of some kind. Making him a racist sociopath who is murdering people is a bit much. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/14 "2007-02-12T04:01:52Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] So of course Helo is right. Always. Even though his attitude is completely ridiculous. [/QUOTE] He only got on my nerves recently, when he killed the Cylon prisoners, but he’s done it consistently since then. Maybe Apollo will beat his ass for coping a feel while carrying his wife. Did he do a “Fireman’s Carry”, the easiest and fastest? Oh, no, it was “arm around the tits”. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/15 "2007-02-12T04:25:48Z")
Mediocre at best. Liked the bar scene. Chief Tyrol is hitting the sauce the last two episodes. Kinda wondered how far they were going to go with Rosilyn watching what would appear to be a…solo act… Cheap heat with the “OMG they killed Dualla” break “No they didn’t” editing. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/16 "2007-02-12T04:43:16Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Kinda wondered how far they were going to go with Rosilyn watching what would appear to be a…solo act… [/QUOTE] With Baltar? Like Baltar has an invisible friend? Maybe they will figure something out, like “Why do you reckon Baltar used to jerk hisownself around by his tie?” Why the name of the episode? I thought it would be a reference to President Laura, but it didn’t appear to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/17 "2007-02-12T04:46:29Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Why the name of the episode? I thought it would be a reference to President Laura, but it didn’t appear to do so. [/QUOTE] Think the title came from the mother of the murdered boy. Her last name was King. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/18 "2007-02-12T04:48:31Z")
Helo even said “that woman, King” at one point. Where was Scarecrow? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/19 "2007-02-12T05:13:23Z")
Overall, a mediocre episode, nice to see Tigh being the lovable ol’ hardass again, but Helo’s really starting to be a sanctomonius prick as far as Doc NotCottle, could he _be_ any more one-dimensional? the "Oh My God, They Killed Dee! scene was predictable as well on the upside, no Kara being a prat this week either, and thankfully little air-time for the Pop-Tart as well on a scale of 1-10, I’d rate this one a 4.5 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2007, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787/20 "2007-02-12T06:43:12Z")
Kinda wish they’d left the bonus scene in, perhaps instead of the insomnia scene in the opener. I never could find a longer version on the website, but from what they showed after the credits, that scene would have explained why Helo was stuck with the civilian manager gig… Also starting to wonder when we get the BSG Law episode. They have at least 3 high profile defendants needing trial now, including the Doc from this week. Need more Viper fights and gratuitous nudity. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsg-season-3-episode-14-the-woman-king-spoilers/391787.md?page=2)