# BSG's final episode is my personally most replayed thing ever. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 20, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425 "2009-06-20T23:41:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/21 "2009-06-22T15:56:32Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The humans end up in a neolithic culture without technology presumably eating nuts, berries and grubs. The child they rescues dies young. They dissapear without a trace, save for Lucy. The Cylons control all the civilized planets. Galactica, the fleet and all their technology is flown into the sun. That qualifies for a Cylon win. Not at all: Hera became the ancestor of every living human. And the Cylons, with the exception of the 2s, 6s & 8s with the Colonials and the red striped toasters who flew off in the base star, are all dead - the Colony was destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![in\_hiding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c5a1d2/32.png) [@in\_hiding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/in_hiding)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/22 "2009-06-22T16:03:10Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The humans end up in a neolithic culture without technology presumably eating nuts, berries and grubs. The child they rescues dies young. They dissapear without a trace, save for Lucy. The Cylons control all the civilized planets. Galactica, the fleet and all their technology is flown into the sun. That qualifies for a Cylon win. Their civilization and culture survives, or how do you explain all the greek gods and the monotheistic religions on our planet? Also, Moore made it quite clear in a panel that after the attack on the colony, there are **no** Cylons left but the ones on earth and the centurions who went with the base star (…and a lonely, irradiated Xena at the first Earth) ;). The rest, all the Cavils and so on were killed in the Cylon civil war and at the colony. It’s all over. Second Earth with its population **is** the last chance of both Cylons and Humans. That’s the whole point of the ending. The religious stuff is a matter of opinion, of course. ETA: ninja’d! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/23 "2009-06-22T16:48:51Z")
[quote=“in\_hiding, post:22, topic:500425”] Their civilization and culture survives, or how do you explain all the greek gods and the monotheistic religions on our planet?[/spoiler]Maybe [spoiler]those religions get recreated, or reinforced, on whatever planet, when the time is right later on, by the Greek gods, the Lords of Kobol and by God, or whatever names they all use, themselves. The internal politics of that bunch were left opaque to us. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/24 "2009-06-22T17:32:56Z")
> [@in\_hiding](#): > > Also, Moore made it quite clear in a panel I must have missed that meeting. 🙂 I’d like to discuss that without spoilers somewhere, cause I didn’t get any of that from the show. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/25 "2009-06-22T17:48:34Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I must have missed that meeting. 🙂 > I’d like to discuss that without spoilers somewhere, cause I didn’t get any of that from the show. Then why not just discuss it in this thread? Despite some people using spoilers, everyone here is discussing the final episode of an entire run of a show - everyone’s seen it - there’s nothing to spoil. Despite the OP’s use of a spoiler box - who would wander into this thread and be reading this far down if they hadn’t already seen it? ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/26 "2009-06-22T17:48:50Z")
The finale is three months old, and the title makes it obvious that said finale will be the primary topic of discussion in this thread; is there a reason we’re spoiler-boxing everything? I liked the finale overall. I did think some of it seemed shoehorned in, and I admit I was disappointed with the shrug-of-the-shoulders explanation for my favorite character’s origin. I’m more partial to the finale of S3, myself, but for more of a HOLY FRAK THAT WAS COOL reason than a finale would be, plus I really, really love Bear’s treatment of _Watchtower_. My face was about the same as the Final Five’s when they recognized it at the bar in “Someone to Watch Over Me.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/27 "2009-06-22T17:58:24Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Then why not just discuss it in this thread? I don’t want to pee in somebody’s thread, and I doubt we would convince each other, anyway. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/28 "2009-06-22T18:19:01Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I don’t want to pee in somebody’s thread, and I doubt we would convince each other, anyway. 🙂 I’m not trying to be a bore, but…really? Are you afraid of contaminating a discussion of the final episode of BSG with discussion of the final episode of BSG? Or are you afraid of having a non-spoilerboxed discussion in a thread that already has non-spoilerboxed discussion? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/29 "2009-06-22T18:29:33Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Or are you afraid of having a non-spoilerboxed discussion in a thread that already has non-spoilerboxed discussion? I quake in my boots at the thought of having a non-spoilerlboxed discussion in a thread that was opened with a spoilerbox. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![in\_hiding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c5a1d2/32.png) [@in\_hiding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/in_hiding)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/30 "2009-06-22T19:02:16Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I must have missed that meeting. 🙂 > I’d like to discuss that without spoilers somewhere, cause I didn’t get any of that from the show. No Idea where. I saw it on Youtube, when I was in serious BSG withdrawal. There are a bunch of panels from cons, and there is a podcast to (I think) every episode, where Moore explains some motivations and ideas. Might be from there, too. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/31 "2009-06-22T19:19:50Z")
> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#): > > The finale is three months old, and the title makes it obvious that said finale will be the primary topic of discussion in this thread; is there a reason we’re spoiler-boxing everything? It’s amazing how much discussion there was about open-text posts of material that had already been aired. Some people care inexplicably much. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/32 "2009-06-22T19:27:19Z")
> [@in\_hiding](#): > > and there is a podcast to (I think) every episode, where Moore explains some motivations and ideas. Might be from there, too. Thanks! I used to listen to the podcasts. It was one of those that he told us that the nuked planet was “really Earth”, the son of a gun. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/33 "2009-06-22T19:38:50Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Thanks! > I used to listen to the podcasts. It was one of those that he told us that the nuked planet was “really Earth”, the son of a gun. 🙂 Well… it was “really” Earth. Just not \*our \*Earth. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/34 "2009-06-22T19:46:06Z")
I don’t know. The ending didn’t justify the show. I loved the run, I just hated the ending. You’re really gonna have me believe that all those people on the ships accepted this ending? The people (non main characters) on those ships seemed way too spoiled throughout the shows run to possibly think “hey lets give up all our technology and just live simple lives” was acceptable. Like, there were obviously doctors and lawyers and scientists and engineers, thousands of them, and they really expect all those people to just not use everything they know? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/35 "2009-06-22T20:06:22Z")
EvilHamsterOnCrack, if you’re going to use a spoiler box, could you at least give us an indication of what’s in it? I can’t possibly imagine anyone coming into this thread not expecting to have the ending of BSG spoiled for them, but c’mon. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/36 "2009-06-22T20:28:08Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > EvilHamsterOnCrack, if you’re going to use a spoiler box, could you at least give us an indication of what’s in it? He is one of my Disciples. I only need eleven moore… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/37 "2009-06-22T20:37:01Z")
[spoiler]Ron Moore has hinted that the concept of the new show “Caprica” will end up being a virtual dream that the Final Five had on their way from Earth One to the Colonies. [/spoiler] Not really, but why’d you click on the spoiler above? You had no idea what was in it - therefore, there was absolutely no need for even using the spoiler box. If you use a box (if you really, truly must), then give a one sentence, “speculation on the upcoming Caprica:” before it. Or in EvilHamster’s case a “here’s the 34th post on a topic everyone in this thread is talking about, but in a spoiler box for no apparent reason at all:”. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/38 "2009-06-22T20:41:37Z")
Y’all come over [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11268414#post11268414) and play without spoiler boxes. ---
**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/39 "2009-06-22T21:03:15Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > EvilHamsterOnCrack, if you’re going to use a spoiler box, could you at least give us an indication of what’s in it? I can’t possibly imagine anyone coming into this thread not expecting to have the ending of BSG spoiled for them, but c’mon. Well, I didn’t really have anything to say that wasn’t a spoiler. I guess I should’ve described it, but whatever. I agree that everything on this thread should just be unboxed, but people were saying otherwise in the posts immediately preceding mine, so I boxed the whole post. you read it anyway. sue me. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425/40 "2009-06-24T01:23:28Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Uh…what? The crew of the Galactica believed they were doing the right thing - stopping the cycle. How in the world did you come to conclusion that they thought they were letting it continue? How is returning to a primitive state so that all their knowledge is lost to antiquity going to break the cycle exactly? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bsgs-final-episode-is-my-personally-most-replayed-thing-ever/500425.md?page=3)