# Buchanan: "White America died" election night \[satire\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 12, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746 "2012-11-12T03:25:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/1 "2012-11-12T03:25:44Z")

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[Dude got to be too much even for G. Gordon Liddy.](http://dailycurrant.com/2012/11/07/buchanan-white-america-dead/)

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> “White America died last night. Obama’s reelection killed it. Our 200 plus year history as a Western nation is over. We’re a Socialist Latin American country now. Venezuela without the oil.”
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> Stunned by his clear racisim, Liddy tried to walk his guest back from the ledge:
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> “With what you just said right there…You seem to imply that white people are better than other people. That’s not really what you’re saying is it?”
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> “Of course that’s what I’m saying,” Buchanan replied “Isn’t it obvious? Anything worth doing on this Earth was done first by white people.”
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> “Who landed on the moon? White people. Who climbed Mount Everest? White people. Who invented the transistor? White people. Who invented paper? White people. Who discovered algebra? White people.”
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> “And don’t give me all this nonsense about Martin Luther King and civil rights and all that. Who do you think freed the slaves? Abraham Lincoln. A white guy!”

(Don’t tell him the Arabs discovered algebra and the Chinese invented paper.)

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/2 "2012-11-12T03:28:47Z")

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That can’t possibly be a real quote, can it?

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/3 "2012-11-12T03:31:54Z")

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The Daily Currant is a satire site, so I’m guessing it isn’t real…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/4 "2012-11-12T03:32:24Z")

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> [@fumster](#):
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> That can’t possibly be a real quote, can it?

It’s the Daily Currant. A produce-based satire site.

However, I think Poe’s Law applies.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/5 "2012-11-12T03:33:20Z")

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> [@fumster](#):
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> That can’t possibly be a real quote, can it?

My first instinct is that it’s a fake. The site says this supposedly happened four days ago. But a Google search show no other news sources reporting this.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/6 "2012-11-12T03:34:01Z")

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Yeah, only in satire would Gordo be appalled by such a speech.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/7 "2012-11-12T03:40:39Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> It’s the Daily Currant. A produce-based satire site.
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> However, I think Poe’s Law applies.

Wouldn’t it be Cole’s Law, instead? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/8 "2012-11-12T03:45:35Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be Cole’s Law, instead? :dubious:

That would be [Cabbage.com](http://Cabbage.com).

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/9 "2012-11-12T03:45:59Z")

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_The Daily Currant_ is like _The Onion_ except for no funny parts.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/10 "2012-11-12T03:50:36Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> _The Daily Currant_ is like _The Onion_ except for no funny parts.

Indeed.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/11 "2012-11-12T03:53:41Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> _The Daily Currant_ is like _The Onion_ except for no funny parts.

Right. People keep missing the point: **For satire to work, it has to be something that’s a little bit beyond what the target would actually say or do.**

Those remarks in the OP don’t qualify.

(This also requires audience familiarity with the target. When Ebert attempted sarcasm, which is similar to satire, he failed because he came off like he was just another dumb old person mouthing off about gays. Not enough people knew his real position on the issue.)

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/12 "2012-11-12T03:54:22Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> It’s the Daily Currant. A produce-based satire site.
> 
> However, I think Poe’s Law applies.

Yeah; my first thought wasn’t “that can’t be true”; it was “Buchanan? That explains it.”

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/13 "2012-11-12T04:07:07Z")

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He’s said things exactly like that before. [Here’s Rachel Maddow taking him to task](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUv3LcGom38) for the wacky shit he was spewing on her show (Gets specific at 2:30). [Here’s the full context.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfoUuOwAaIc)

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/14 "2012-11-12T05:12:22Z")

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Even if Buchanan didn’t say it publicly, it’s very likely what he’s thinking. The Currant must be channeling him.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/15 "2012-11-12T06:01:28Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> He’s said things exactly like that before. [Here’s Rachel Maddow taking him to task](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUv3LcGom38) for the wacky shit he was spewing on her show (Gets specific at 2:30). [Here’s the full context.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfoUuOwAaIc)

Didn’t follow links, but Maddow refuses to have him as a guest.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/16 "2012-11-12T06:35:01Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Didn’t follow links, but Maddow refuses to have him as a guest.

Maybe NOW she does, but he guested on her show quite a bit when it was new.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/17 "2012-11-12T06:47:46Z")

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**jayjay** -He probably said stuff that built over time, and finally pissed her off, banning him.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/18 "2012-11-12T06:48:39Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Dude got to be too much even for G. Gordon Liddy.](http://dailycurrant.com/2012/11/07/buchanan-white-america-dead/)
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> (Don’t tell him the Arabs discovered algebra and the Chinese invented paper.)

And one of the first two people climbing Everest wasn’t white. Dead giveaway there, since climbing Everest could only have been picked for its supposed satiric value.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/19 "2012-11-12T06:49:56Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Maybe NOW she does, but he guested on her show quite a bit when it was new.

IIRC, he actually had his own special segment on her show originally.

ETA: MSNBC [finally fired him early this year.](http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0217/Why-did-MSNBC-drop-Pat-Buchanan)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buchanan-white-america-died-election-night-satire/640746/20 "2012-11-12T06:57:59Z")

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Yeah, satire just can’t keep up with these people. Buchanan’s latest book, “Suicide of a Superpower” actually has a chapter titled “The End of White America”.

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