# Bucks County killings . . . strangerer and strangerer

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**Created:** [July 12, 2017, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066 "2017-07-12T08:33:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/21 "2017-07-12T20:29:01Z")

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I think everyone has missed the true cray cray…  
Quote “A post on his Facebook page advertised seven new pairs of name-brand sneakers. A Flickr account belonging to someone of the same name contains 187 photos of shoes, including Nikes and Air Jordans, many pairs taken with a sign with his name and the date written on it. Some images from 2014 show bullets set up next to the shoes.”

From [this Philly.com](http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/searchers-resume-sifting-searching-on-bucks-farm-for-4-missing-men-20170712.html) story

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/22 "2017-07-12T21:23:12Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> I think everyone has missed the true cray cray…  
> Quote “A post on his Facebook page advertised seven new pairs of name-brand sneakers. A Flickr account belonging to someone of the same name contains 187 photos of shoes, including Nikes and Air Jordans, many pairs taken with a sign with his name and the date written on it. Some images from 2014 show bullets set up next to the shoes.”
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> From [this Philly.com](http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/searchers-resume-sifting-searching-on-bucks-farm-for-4-missing-men-20170712.html) story

I haven’t paid attention to this story, but that [Flickr account](https://www.flickr.com/photos/116392624@N07/) is something. Go about midway down the second page to see the pics of shoes with bullets ([like this one](https://www.flickr.com/photos/116392624@N07/12322289255/), which also appears to have a full clip [magazine, whatever it’s called] on the left side).

ETA: [another one where the lighting is better](https://www.flickr.com/photos/116392624@N07/12322216225/in/photostream/).

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/23 "2017-07-12T21:29:46Z")

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> [@Jennshark](#):
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> A new and ominous twist: suspect has been rearrested for trying to sell one of the missing man’s car.

Perhaps it is a good thing that someone that stupid will not have access to his parent’s money.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/24 "2017-07-12T22:43:16Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Actually, they put up $100,000 in cash (ten percent of the bail amount).

I’m confused— did he pay a bail bondsman $100K, which he presumably will not get back, or did they really allow him to put up only 10% of the bail amount?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/25 "2017-07-12T22:54:03Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> > [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> > Actually, they put up $100,000 in cash (ten percent of the bail amount).
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> I’m confused— did he pay a bail bondsman $100K, which he presumably will not get back, or did they really allow him to put up only 10% of the bail amount?

Sounds like they paid a bail bondsman the hundred thousand dollars. From [philly.com](http://philly.com), “Already jailed Monday on unrelated firearms charges, DiNardo was released late Tuesday after posting bond for his $1 million bail.”

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**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/26 "2017-07-12T22:56:08Z")

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I’ve been following this and it seems like it gets stranger and stranger each day. I hadn’t seen about the grand jury and I’m not sure I follow or I missed something. What exactly is the grand jury being called for? Are they trying to bring charges against the parents of the guy with the weapons offense? I’m missing pieces.

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**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/27 "2017-07-12T22:57:33Z")

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> [@Jennshark](#):
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> A new and ominous twist: suspect has been rearrested for trying to sell one of the missing man’s car.

Well he isn’t a very smart suspect is he?

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/28 "2017-07-12T22:57:53Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> I think everyone has missed the true cray cray…

Pssst. Post 13

> [@Spiderman](#):
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> …he had been previously involuntarily committed for mental illness/issues.

Clearly, it wasn’t missed.

> [@Bayard](#):
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> I haven’t paid attention to this story, but that [Flickr account](https://www.flickr.com/photos/116392624@N07/) is something.

I like [green & purple suede](https://www.flickr.com/photos/116392624@N07/14057801294/) ones. If a Komodo Dragon wore shoes, I’d bet he’d were these as they have a badass, dragonish quality to them.

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I’m confused— did he pay a bail bondsman $100K, which he presumably will not get back, or did they really allow him to put up only 10% of the bail amount?

Dad gave the court a cashier’s check for $100 large; posting 10% cash is standard.

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**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/29 "2017-07-12T23:10:14Z")

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I took a day trip to Peddler’s Village (a nice “village” of shops about ten minutes from New Hope) on my day off yesterday. Coming from South Jersey as I do, I usually go through Lambertville and through New Hope on Bridge Street to avoid paying tolls.

Well, driving down 202, I drove by about fifteen news vans, and reporters with cameras set up and everything. I asked the first shop employee I saw and she brought me up to speed. (I haven’t been watching much TV news recently, getting my news from [AOL.com](http://AOL.com) or other online sources, and lately I’ve been concentrating more on national/international stuff than local, so I missed the story up to now.) Walking around the shops yesterday, I kept looking up to see news helicopters hovering over the area.

I feel awful for the families of those four boys. Whatever we find out, I hope justice is served.

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/30 "2017-07-13T04:16:42Z")

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[Human remains found](http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Mark-Sturgis-Tom-Meo-Dean-Finocchiaro-Jimi-Patrick-Bodies-Found-Cosmo-DiNardo-Solebury-Township-Bucks-County-Pennsylvania-Search-Missing-Young-Men-434143463.html) on the Solebury farm. ☹

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/31 "2017-07-13T09:43:26Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> There is no mafia.

And they’ll kill anyone who says there is.

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/32 "2017-07-13T13:08:19Z")

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This is making news all the way down here in Texas for some reason.

I think the guy was arrested twice. The first time the bond was one million. The second time he was arrested only 2 or three days later, the bond was five million.  
His family got him out both times.

I recall from the news story that one guy went missing on Wednesday and then three more went missing on Friday.

I also recall that a police car with a license plate scanner had tagged both the (now) suspect’s truck and at least one potential victims car as being in the same place at the same time on Friday. I suppose the cars were parked somethwhere. I think those scanners are used as a police car drives through a parking lot.

I see the NYT story from the 12th has a bit of odd phrasing: The story says a 9single) body was found and identified, butthat it was found “in a 12.5-foot-deep “common grave” on the Bucks County farm,”.

I’m not sure if the guy is just a nut (he has mental health history that prevents him from owing a gun) who has suddenly decided to kill off all his friends/coworkers, if it’s a drugdeal-gone-bad story, or if he’s a serial killer (all those shoes, some of which look used, and the bullets, but I guess it’s more likely he’s just a shoe nut who wears them a time or two).

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/33 "2017-07-13T13:32:12Z")

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Bucks County, my adopted home.

I will not enter this on the list of mass killings until more facts come to light.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/34 "2017-07-13T13:33:45Z")

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Not a serial killer, as he apparently did not kill over a length of time. Most likely someone who just “snapped” or a spree killer.

This story just started to make the local 1010 WINS (New York City) news last night with the suspected killer’s arrest.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/35 "2017-07-13T13:57:56Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> Dad gave the court a cashier’s check for $100 large; posting 10% cash is standard.

Then I remain a little confused. If the kid skipped bail, they were just going to bill him for the other $900K? Or was the other 90% from property rather than cash?

I’m familiar with the “pay a bondsman a 10% fee to guarantee the full bail amount” model, but not the “your bail is set at $1 million, but we’ll be nice and let you put up $100K instead” model.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/36 "2017-07-13T14:00:32Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Then I remain a little confused. If the kid skipped bail, they were just going to bill him for the other $900K? Or was the other 90% from property rather than cash?
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> I’m familiar with the “pay a bondsman a 10% fee to guarantee the full bail amount” model, but not the “your bail is set at $1 million, but we’ll be nice and let you put up $100K instead” model.

I think that the bail bondman is responsible for the money if the guy skips. He still gets away for only 100k, though.

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**Author:** ![sevenwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@sevenwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sevenwood)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/37 "2017-07-13T14:27:10Z")

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CNN has just reported that a body found on the property [has been identified as one of the missing men.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/13/us/pennsylvania-missing-men/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/38 "2017-07-13T14:29:54Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> Bucks County, my adopted home.
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> I will not enter this on the list of mass killings until more facts come to light.

I work in the County and word on the street here is that four bodies have been found buried 12’+ underground (and under an old oil burner tank). Only one body, that of Dean Foccachio (sp?), was identified at the midnight press briefing. The speculation is that the other human remains were – maybe – in more gruesome shape ☹

There have been some odd disappearances here in the last few months, including a partially burned body of a man that turned up last week. However, Philly is a violent place and it’s not unusual for bodies to be dumped up here in more rural areas.

Again, this is what the local buzz is so it comes with a FWIW, YMMV, Social Media speculations, etc.

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/39 "2017-07-13T14:56:58Z")

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I hope I’m not being ghoulish in this thread. I have some minor connections to the young men, including the suspect, and some colleagues have strong connections to the men and their families. Closely following the details of the situation is my way of trying to make sense of senseless violence ☹

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/40 "2017-07-13T15:43:02Z")

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> [@Ca3799](#):
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> I see the NYT story from the 12th has a bit of odd phrasing: The story says a 9single) body was found and identified, butthat it was found “in a 12.5-foot-deep “common grave” on the Bucks County farm,”.

Multiple bodies found in the grave; only one has been (publicly) identified so far.

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