# Bucks County killings . . . strangerer and strangerer

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 12, 2017, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066 "2017-07-12T08:33:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/61 "2017-07-14T13:10:07Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Twelve and a half was what I read.
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> I don’t know what’s stranger.  
> [ol]  
> [li]Digging a grave (mass or otherwise) twelve feet deep.[/li][li]The police continuing to excavate beyond eight or so feet down.[/li][li]The police measuring (with a tape measure? Laser?) the depth to the half-foot.[/li][/ol]

> [@ioioio](#):
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> I’m also curious about the 12.5’ hole. Poor people have to be satisfied with burying their victims in shallow graves.

They’re not sure the (whole) hole is new; some part of it may have already existed.  
The family is in the concrete & construction businesses & presumably own heavy equipment. Makes it much easier than digging by hand.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/62 "2017-07-14T14:08:02Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I was drawn to a line in one of the linked articles that said DiNardo sold marijuana in quarter-pound quantities for “several thousand dollars”. Now, that’s either some VERY good marijuana or a REALLY bad deal.

A quarter pound is 4 ounces. I can get pretty decent (not the absolute best) weed right now for $320 an ounce. At quarter pound weights there aren’t necessarily discounts, but if there is, $1,000 even is what I’d expect. Yeah, “several thousand” sounds like police exaggeration, like “several plants with a street value of 1/4 million dollars”.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/63 "2017-07-14T14:29:22Z")

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Maybe he suspected they were informants since his name is an anagram of “Does narc doom.”

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**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/64 "2017-07-14T14:49:01Z")

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I just read that there’s another person of interest the police are talking to in regard to the murders. I don’t know if an arrest has been made.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/65 "2017-07-14T14:53:37Z")

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What was up with the shoes? Was that a random detail, or is the guy suspected of killing people and keeping their shoes as mementos or something?

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/66 "2017-07-14T18:29:30Z")

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Cosmo & his cousin have now been [charged](http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/bucks-missing-men-sean-kratz-conspirator-20170714.html) with murder; should make for an interesting next family get-together.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/67 "2017-07-14T18:38:27Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> Cosmo & his cousin have now been [charged](http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/bucks-missing-men-sean-kratz-conspirator-20170714.html) with murder; should make for an interesting next family get-together.

Family barbecues are going to be a bitch.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/68 "2017-07-14T19:00:27Z")

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I read this morning that DeNardo had been previously involuntarily committed for a mental evaluation, and has recently been charged with carrying a gun illegally, having been an involuntary mental detainee.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/69 "2017-07-14T19:08:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I read this morning that DeNardo had been previously involuntarily committed for a mental evaluation, and has recently been charged with carrying a gun illegally, having been an involuntary mental detainee.

Not to hijack but, wasn’t one of Trump’s first great “accomplishments” rescinding the restriction on mentally ill people owning guns?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/70 "2017-07-14T20:46:02Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> Not to hijack but, wasn’t one of Trump’s first great “accomplishments” rescinding the restriction on mentally ill people owning guns?

Are you talking about the Social Security representative-payee thing? That’s the closest thing I am aware of to your claim, but I certainly wouldn’t claim all the rep-payee recipients are “mentally ill”.

I will say that 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(4) is still very much in effect, and it is still unlawful for “a person who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been admitted to a mental institution” “to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.”

TL;DR = If you are “mentally ill”, you can still get locked up for possessing a firearm.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/71 "2017-07-14T21:01:14Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Are you talking about the Social Security representative-payee thing? That’s the closest thing I am aware of to your claim, but I certainly wouldn’t claim all the rep-payee recipients are “mentally ill”.
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> I will say that 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(4) is still very much in effect, and it is still unlawful for “a person who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been admitted to a mental institution” “to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.”
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> TL;DR = If you are “mentally ill”, you can still get locked up for possessing a firearm.

Yes, that is what I meant. Thank you for clearing that up. I only read the headlines when that happened and it may have been (probably was) misrepresented.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/72 "2017-07-14T22:13:22Z")

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I’ll never look at a pig roaster the same again.  
[https://goo.gl/images/KhRGpG](https://goo.gl/images/KhRGpG)

Although it doesn’t seem big enough for a person. Certainly not three.

They buried the first victim with a backhoe. They certainly could have done the same with the others. Instead of barbecuing them.

> [@](#):
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> Mr. DiNardo wrapped the body in a blue tarp and used the backhoe to put it into a metal tank he called “the pig roaster,” which Mr. Weintraub described as “an old oil tank that had been converted into a cooker.”

> [@](#):
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> Mr. DiNardo used the backhoe to put both bodies into the same tank that held Mr. Finocchiaro’s body, poured gasoline on them, and lit it.
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> “There was an attempt to burn the bodies, to deface them, to obliterate them, but I don’t believe it was successful,” Mr. Weintraub said.
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> Both suspects said that they returned to the farm on July 8, the complaints say, where Mr. DiNardo used the backhoe to dig a hole, and then put the three partially burned bodies into it.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/73 "2017-07-14T22:37:18Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> A quarter pound is 4 ounces. I can get pretty decent (not the absolute best) weed right now for $320 an ounce. At quarter pound weights there aren’t necessarily discounts, but if there is, $1,000 even is what I’d expect. Yeah, “several thousand” sounds like police exaggeration, like “several plants with a street value of 1/4 million dollars”.

I just heard on NBC News that the amount of marijuana in question was 4 pounds, not 1/4 pound. 😕

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/74 "2017-07-15T00:58:39Z")

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There’s no fucking way his parents didn’t know about all this.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/75 "2017-07-15T01:50:26Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> There’s no fucking way his parents didn’t know about all this.

Why not?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/76 "2017-07-15T01:52:32Z")

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Blood and guts on the backhoe? It was used to crush one victim and used to dump burned bodies into a hole.

Just wait until dear old dad tries to fire up the pig roaster on Labor Day.

They’ll probably make a horror flick based on this story. It’s right up there with Texas Chainsaw Massacre

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/77 "2017-07-16T03:42:22Z")

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This isn’t something anyone should make jokes about.

Any further updates?

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/78 "2017-07-17T03:11:08Z")

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We’re discussing this extensively on another website, and we all think this is going to go much deeper than we think at the time - the evidence equivalent of the 12-foot hole, if you will. I for one don’t think this is the first time Cosmo has killed someone.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/79 "2017-07-17T10:37:55Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> This isn’t something anyone should make jokes about.

Cosmo DiNardo. _Not_ a joke, that’s his real name. See the problem?

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bucks-county-killings-strangerer-and-strangerer/791066/80 "2017-07-17T12:53:48Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Cosmo DiNardo. _Not_ a joke, that’s his real name.

I don’t know if that’s the inspiration or not, but Seinfield was on TV 20 years ago. He wouldn’t be the first person named after a TV character.

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