# Bud Selig can go fuck himself **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881 "2004-09-24T15:15:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MisterThyristor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecccb3/32.png) [@MisterThyristor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MisterThyristor)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/21 "2004-09-24T18:55:15Z")
According to the first link given by the OP: “His official title with Boston is Special Assignment Instructor. He teaches infield skills to young players in Spring Training as well as with the Pawtucket Red Sox and Lowell Spinners.” That sounds like a coach or trainer to me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/22 "2004-09-24T18:57:31Z")
> [@wmulax93](#): > > I have Bud’s office number. Mods, is it OK for me to post it? Since no other mod has responded yet: No. Absolutely not. -JMCJ ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/23 "2004-09-24T19:12:28Z")
Thanks JC. I figured I needed to ask first. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/24 "2004-09-24T19:15:18Z")
> [@wmulax93](#): > > Thanks JC. I figured I needed to ask first. Greatly appreciated. And Lord knows, you aren’t the first or the worst- I can’t remember who it was that posted Admiral Poindexter’s home phone number here on the boards, specifically requesting people harass him. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/25 "2004-09-24T19:18:56Z")
> [@MisterThyristor](#): > > That sounds like a coach or trainer to me. For AAA Pawtucket. I’m sure there are players on that team as well, they’re not allowed on the bench unless they’re officially part of the Major League Roster. I assume there is a list kept somewhere that states who is an official member of the coaching staff, and he ain’t on it. If the Sox thought it was important enough, I’m sure they could wrangle a way to get him listed as a coach. The fact that they haven’t suggests that there is either a limit to the number of coaching positions, or they don’t really care themselves. ---
**Author:** ![MisterThyristor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecccb3/32.png) [@MisterThyristor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MisterThyristor)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/26 "2004-09-24T20:37:11Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > For AAA Pawtucket. I’m sure there are players on that team as well, they’re not allowed on the bench unless they’re officially part of the Major League Roster. I assume there is a list kept somewhere that states who is an official member of the coaching staff, and he ain’t on it. > > If the Sox thought it was important enough, I’m sure they could wrangle a way to get him listed as a coach. The fact that they haven’t suggests that there is either a limit to the number of coaching positions, or they don’t really care themselves. It said “young players in Spring Training **as well as** with the Pawtucket Red Sox and Lowell Spinners.” (emphasis mine) By the use of “as well as” and the fact that they put “Spring Training” in caps, I think it is pretty safe to infer they meant Red Sox spring training. But yeah, the Sox should be able to defend his place there if they really wanted to. The fact that they haven’t says that the blame should be placed on them. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/27 "2004-09-24T21:17:58Z")
> [@An Arky](#): > > …and while we’re at it, how about another big, hearty Fuck You to Selig and that committee-thingy, for the non-decision on moving the Expos to DC. I know it’s still up in the air, but if this deal tanks because of Angelos, Washington-area residents ought not give that rat bastard another fucking dime. Looks like the Expos [are](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1887083) headed to DC. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/28 "2004-09-24T22:31:11Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Why does bud Selig hate baseball so much? 😛 Thanks, DtC. I’ve calmed down now and I fully understand enforcing the rules, but hell, why are they only starting to enforce the rules now? ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/29 "2004-09-24T23:03:31Z")
> [@Dooku](#): > > Looks like the Expos [are](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1887083) headed to DC. Yeah, I had just heard a report on the radio right before I posted saying they hadn’t given the reccomendation yet, and I flew off the handle over nothing. Doh! :smack: Of course, all this over the freakin’ Expos… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/30 "2004-09-25T00:07:59Z")
> [@Dooku](#): > > Looks like the Expos [are](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1887083) headed to DC. We’re being invaded by Canadians! :eek: 😉 ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/31 "2004-09-25T00:55:05Z")
> [@KSO](#): > > 😛 Thanks, DtC. > > I’ve calmed down now and I fully understand enforcing the rules, but hell, why are they only starting to enforce the rules now? I don’t think MLB is picking on the Red Sox. The St Louis Cardinals went through the same thing with former player, manager and then longtime bench coach Red Schoendist a couple years ago. IIRC The Cardinals had used their allotment of coaches, and were using Schoendist as dugout advisor to Tony LaRussa, when MLB came down on the Redbirds. Unless the number of uniformed coaches a team can have in the dugout are a part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the owners could quite easily change the rules to allow each team to have a _consigliere_ like Pesky or Schoendist. I don’t follow baseball like I used to, but I should think most teams have an old-timer around the organization like this. ---
**Author:** ![dinahmoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@dinahmoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dinahmoe)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/32 "2004-09-25T01:45:54Z")
Wasn’t Pesky booted from the dugout earlier this season, and then allowed back? Or was that a particualrly vivid bad dream? And what the hell is up with McClelland at 3rd tonight? ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/33 "2004-09-25T08:49:02Z")
> [@wmulax93](#): > > I have Bud’s office number. Mods, is it OK for me to post it? Oooh, send it to me as well. I have a couple of Selig Pits around here somewhere. Bastard destroyed mt Brewers. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Balle\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@Balle\_M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balle_M)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/34 "2004-09-25T13:21:34Z")
Although I had no idea what your rant was about, I immediately agreed with the thread title. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/35 "2004-09-25T14:26:07Z")
> [@Balle\_M](#): > > Although I had no idea what your rant was about, I immediately agreed with the thread title. Good to see more baseball fans here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/36 "2004-09-25T18:03:24Z")
> [@Doctor Jackson](#): > > You name your foul poles? … After people? It’s no ordinary foul pole location. The 1B line at Fenway is pretty short, only 203 feet, but the OF wall goes out to 380 ft. just a few degrees over, creating a section of wall only 3 ft. high that’s almost a continuation of the foul line except with a slight leftward kink in it. It’s very common for lefthanded hitters to hook the ball around Pesky’s Pole for home runs that would be foul into the stands anywhere else. Johnny is an icon. You don’t mess with those without consequences. Good job, Bud - it was frickin’ obvious that the Expos should move to Washington ten years ago. Too bad you don’t have the spine to tell Angelos to deal with it, and that it took dwindling attendance in Baltimore to overcome his whining. Now there can be a rivalry that will be good for both teams - as soon as MLB actually sells the team to a real owner, that is. ---
**Author:** ![deadeyesdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@deadeyesdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deadeyesdad)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/37 "2004-09-25T21:38:42Z")
Hey Sauwks fans is the other pole named the Buckner Pole or is only one named after a guy who blew the Series for you? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/38 "2004-09-25T22:14:59Z")
Pesky did \*not \* “hold the ball”. Look at the game film sometime. Slaughter got a great jump, he was greased-lightning fast, the ball was hit deep, and he just outran the relay throw. Most of the blame for '86 accrues to Calvin Schiraldi, with Buckner’s role no more critical than Bob Stanley’s or Rich Gedman’s. His was just more photogenic. They wouldn’t have made the playoffs even without him. That was a team loss. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/39 "2004-09-25T23:12:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Pesky did \*not \* “hold the ball”. Look at the game film sometime. Slaughter got a great jump, he was greased-lightning fast, the ball was hit deep, and he just outran the relay throw. Enos Slaughter wasn’t “greased-lightning fast.” He WAS a hustler(Pete Rose _copied_ Slaughter’s ‘running’ to first base on a walk). In newspaper interviews with Pesky in the days after the Series ended, he admitted that he never though that Slaughter would be trying to score so he(Pesky) wasn’t as alert as he might have been. > [@](#): > > “Slaughter simply outsmarted me, that’s all there is to it,” Pesky continued. “Harry Walker’s hit was really just a single and I didn’t think Slaughter would ever try to score. When I took the relay from Leon Culberson, I dropped my hands a little and when I realized Country was streaking for the plate I just couldn’t get off a good throw in time.” Shirley Povich, the great sportswriter for the Washington Post in the 1940’s and later, had an interesting comment in his columns after the game. Culbertson, the outfielder on the play, was a substitute for Dom Dimaggio, who had strained a muscle and been replaced earlier in the game. Povich opined that if Dimaggio were still in the game, his skill as a fielder would have made this play unlikely. To use Povich’s phrase, Culbertson “made a lazy throw” on the play, and Povich intimates that it could have lulled Pesky into a false sense of security, never dreaming that Slaughter would be chugging around for home. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881/40 "2004-09-25T23:16:11Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It’s no ordinary foul pole location. The 1B line at Fenway is pretty short, only 203 feet, It’s 302 feet, of course. Hell, I could pop them out if it was 203 🙂 > [@](#): > > Good job, Bud - it was frickin’ obvious that the Expos should move to Washington ten years ago. Well, no, it was not. Ten years ago the Expos were the best team in baseball, coming off a very narrow second place finish to the Phillies in '93. The attendance was fine, as it usually had been since 1969, despite the fact that the team played (and still plays) in the worst stadium in the major leagues - you really cannot understand how awful it is unless you’ve been there. They’ve gotten to where they are now in large part because Selig and his cronies deliberately sabotaged the team. The Montreal market can certainly support a major league franchise. The Expos just aren’t a major league franchise. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bud-selig-can-go-fuck-himself/265881.md?page=3)