# Buffalo Beast 2008 ,50 most loathsome

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 14, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892 "2010-01-14T04:51:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/61 "2010-01-16T16:43:27Z")

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[SHODAN](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iZMD_eCpEo&feature=related).

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/62 "2010-01-16T19:12:49Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> [SHODAN](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iZMD_eCpEo&feature=related).

he has someone read them to him. XT follows me around like a berzerk imprinted duck ,quacking in every thread I participate in. But reality has a fleeting acquaintance with XT and none with SHODAN.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/63 "2010-01-19T15:11:36Z")

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**xtisme** is right - I am not defending _him_; I am just making fun of **gonzomax** ’s posts.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/64 "2010-01-19T20:23:09Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> **xtisme** is right - I am not defending _him_; I am just making fun of **gonzomax** ’s posts.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Sarah, is that you? Mrs. Palin ,you are welcome to continue biased one side posting. That is what you believe in your dark little heart after all.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/65 "2010-01-19T20:25:59Z")

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Gonzo, are you still administering those self shock treatments? My advice is, up the voltage…

-XT

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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/66 "2010-01-19T22:54:15Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> Being petty and nasty is more fun than being a gibbering, credulous fool like you.

Whoa there tough guy, that’s two three syllable words. In a row. You lookin’ to pick a fight or somethin?

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/67 "2010-01-19T22:59:09Z")

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Note: Of COURSE buttonjockey308 someone like BRICKER…sheesh!

Er, what?

-XT

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/68 "2010-01-19T23:07:00Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Sarah, is that you? Mrs. Palin ,you are welcome to continue biased one side posting.

There’s one-sided, and there is unanimous. “One-sided” is “Democrats are stupid”. “Unanimous” is “ **gonzomax** is stupid”.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/69 "2010-01-19T23:27:54Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> There’s one-sided, and there is unanimous. “One-sided” is “Democrats are stupid”. “Unanimous” is “ **gonzomax** is stupid”.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

A totally wrong post again. You sure are on a stupid roll.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/70 "2010-01-19T23:35:03Z")

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Yeah…so take THAT SHODAN! Showed you, ehe!

_snaps fingers_ Hey, let’s get Mikey! He’ll buy this load of fetid dingo kidneys gonzo is pushing…he’s a completely credulous fool! Plus, he’ll eat anything…

-XT

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/71 "2010-01-19T23:44:21Z")

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Is that more quacking I hear? XT grow up a little.

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**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/72 "2010-01-20T00:29:14Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> he has someone read them to him. XT follows me around like a berzerk imprinted duck ,quacking in every thread I participate in. But reality has a fleeting acquaintance with XT and none with SHODAN.

What is your native language?

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/73 "2010-01-20T00:48:52Z")

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:eek:

Holy the damn fucking shit.

I would not have believed this if I hadn’t seen it.

Heck, I’ve seen it and I still don’t believe it.

**gonzomax** , how do you manage to type without knowing how to read?

Holy damn on a crucified the helicopter. On cheese!

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/74 "2010-01-20T02:43:13Z")

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With a ‘berzerk imprinted duck’ on top.

_quack_

-XT

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/75 "2010-01-20T03:50:00Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> With a ‘berzerk imprinted duck’ on top.
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> _quack_
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> -XT

Most sense you have made yet. There is hope for you, if you don’t quack up.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/76 "2010-01-20T13:37:10Z")

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I can’t believe I wasted 30 seconds scanning this thread.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/77 "2010-01-20T17:10:17Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I can’t believe I wasted 30 seconds scanning this thread.

You saw it, you can’t unsee it.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/78 "2010-01-20T17:50:18Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> 😛 You obviously don’t know me well. But then, why should you? You’d actually have to be able to both read what I write AND understand it. This is, sadly, beyond your capabilities. Not that my positions are all THAT hard to follow, mind…just that you have the capacity to understand a nuanced stance is on par with belly lint trying to read Shakespeare. While it’s possible that a million monkeys could reproduce the works of the great bard, given enough type writers and enough time, a million Gonzo’s (one shudders to even contemplate such a horrible possibility) would not be able to bang out the collected works of Mad Magazine, regardless of the resources give them. Hell, they’d be hard pressed to get out the collected works of Sarah Palin…
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> Uhuh…just like your grasp of adding and subtracting, or your ability to understand why ‘faggy’ might be offensive to some. 😛 But you keep telling yourself that you are right and just about everyone else is wrong! It’s worked for you so far after all…
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> It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad that you basically have no idea what my position on any of these subjects you are referring too actually is. It’s even more sad that you think you won those debates…or that you were even able to grasp EITHER side of what was being discussed. What IS funny is that even those nominally on your ‘side’ probably shudder every time they see you come in to ‘help’ with the debate…
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> Too funny. I’m sure most 'dopers would be fascinated that I’m such a stickler for spelling(!!) and punctuation(!!!)…and that I pride myself on it! :p:p:p
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> As for sucking up to authority…again, too funny. You really have about as much insight into my own positions and stances on, well, just about anything, as you do on the subjects of the debates you clearly thought you ‘won’. While I doubt most 'dopers actually like me or enjoy my posts, I also doubt that most (with a few exceptions) think I’m lock step with ‘authority’, whatever that means.
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> I assume this is supposed to say that my strength is that I’m inventive and nasty. To wit…well, I try.
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> I’d say that calling me a teenager is nearly as ironic as 'luci talking about poster arrogance. As for the other…the difference between us is I’m not in it to win, nor do I delude myself that I have done so. I’m in it to see others view points and to test my own assumptions and world view to see where the flaws are. You on the other hand are incapable of even understanding what is being said, let alone of trying to test your own assumptions and world view. You ALREADY know that you are always ‘right’. Hell, I’ve seen threads with page after page of posters from all the spectrum of the political rainbow try to beat into your thick skull the fact that ‘faggy’ is an insult to some, or basic math that most of us learned when we were in grade school.
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> I feel sorry for you that you are so stupid. You can’t do anything about it, after all…we all get what we are born with, and some of us receive ‘gifts’ while others get the shaft. I really do feel for you that you got the shaft when chance was giving out the mental abilities. ☹ I feel contempt for you though that you are so ignorant, that you wallow in that ignorance and use it like a club, and that you are so unwilling to even try to remedy that. This board is about fighting ignorance and, basically, you sully it by being a member. I’ve never said that about anyone before…even Der Trihs brings something to the board, and while I think he’s a nutball sometimes (ok, a LOT of the time), he’s an INTELLIGENT nutball, and far from ignorant. I can’t think of any poster who is as basically worthless as you are to this board or this community. Were it in my power you’d be the one poster I’d absolutely ban from ever even viewing this board again. Lucky for you, it’s not in my power.
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> -XT

I would assume your stance is what you profess on the Dope. I could be wrong about that. But you backed Paulson, Bernanke and Geithner to fix what was done to the financial industry. Geithner was a regulator with ties to the banks, who did not regulate. Benanke was a protege of Greenspan and a scholar of the depression getting his big chance. Paulson ran one of the worst banks in the world that helped cause the whole mess. He garnered a 800 million dollar fortune creating horrible unbacked papers. You argued they were highly qualified ,well educated and should be put in charge. The incompetent and the crooked ,should be allowed to fix the mess they created. There were a lot of economists with clean hands who could have fixed the mess without being co-criminals.  
But I expect you to deny it, since your ego would not permit you to actually admit to being wrong.

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**Author:** ![cards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cards)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/79 "2010-01-20T18:35:11Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> We have argued a few times. Once was the stupid isea he clings to that gas prices are all about supply and demand.

Seriously? What degrees in economics do you have and what is the revolutionary theory here? I’ve had students not get supply and demand because they get hung up on OPEC as a cartel (which attempts to control supply) or some conspiracy triangle involving the government, arabs and BIG OIL, but generally they get beyond it after some critical thinking. Some articles that might help:

[http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/columnist/krantz/2006-05-09-gasoline-prices\_x.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/columnist/krantz/2006-05-09-gasoline-prices_x.htm)

[http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=gasoline\_factors\_affecting\_prices](http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=gasoline_factors_affecting_prices)

WARNING: PDF on the following link:

> **[Gasoline Price Changes: The Dynamic of Supply, Demand, and Competition: A...](https://www.ftc.gov/reports/gasoline-price-changes-dynamic-supply-demand-competition-federal-trade-commission-report-2005)**

There is lots more.

Supply and demand are absolutely the primary drivers of gas prices, along with how consumers and producers react to changes in price (which are based on supply and demand).

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-beast-2008-50-most-loathsome/524892/80 "2010-01-20T19:01:21Z")

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> [@cards](#):
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> …generally they get beyond it after some critical thinking.

I think you have identified the problem with ol’ **gonzomax** here. Ain’t gonna happen.

Have him explain to you why charging interest on a mortgage is a scam because the amount of a constant payment dedicated to reducing the principal goes up. He isn’t going to give Milton Friedman much to worry about, if you catch my drift.

Trying to drive economic principles into **gonzo** ’s brain pan is like trying to explain how a lawn mower works to a parakeet. You’re just going to frighten him.

Regards,  
Shodan

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