# Buffalo can’t become a Lion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 9, 2010, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013 "2010-11-09T08:32:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/61 "2010-11-10T16:18:49Z")

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Actually I’d suggest the other way round. Turning a blind eye while India puts the region in order.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/62 "2010-11-10T16:19:34Z")

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> [@Abisafyan](#):
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> dear, you are not so easy!!!
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> Anyhow, you can infer a lot from the metaphor in terms of vibrating geography, colossal eating capacity & category (viz herbivorous), polluting power and breakdown towards the lion!!!

You don’t sell Castile soap, by any chance? I know a company that could use some fresh copy on their labels.

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**Author:** ![Abisafyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Abisafyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abisafyan)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/63 "2010-11-10T16:32:14Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> It’s "You’re willing to complain about human rights abuses in Burma, but not in Kashmir, when, at least the Burmese are being oppressed by their own people, not by foreigners like the Kashmiri are. In other words, what’s happening in Kashmir is worse than what’s happening in Burma, so why criticize the Burmese government and turn a blind eye to the Indian government.

God Almighty bless you, for saying for God’s Sake!!!

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**Author:** ![Abisafyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Abisafyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abisafyan)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/64 "2010-11-10T16:48:26Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> Actually I’d suggest the other way round. Turning a blind eye while India puts the region in order.

My goodness, ‘pot calling the kettle black’

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/65 "2010-11-10T16:49:38Z")

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Vibrating geography?

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**Author:** ![Abisafyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Abisafyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abisafyan)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/66 "2010-11-10T16:59:34Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Vibrating geography?

Moving movingly of a Massive creature, who moves little forward as compared to her vibration to one side or the other.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/67 "2010-11-10T17:01:36Z")

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I’m starting to question whether you’re really trying to communicate with anybody here.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/68 "2010-11-10T17:03:36Z")

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He’s trying tryingly.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/69 "2010-11-10T17:55:11Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’m starting to question whether you’re really trying to communicate with anybody here.

I’m starting to wonder whether he’s cribbing all his material from the hottest stand-up comic in Karachi – verbatim – and translating it into English via Babelfish.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/70 "2010-11-10T18:06:24Z")

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> [@Abisafyan](#):
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> My goodness, ‘pot calling the kettle black’

Not really. Just more of a fan of secular democracies than fundamentalist dictatorships.

And more of a fan of Sachin than Salman Butt.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/71 "2010-11-10T18:09:17Z")

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It’s a bit unfair to call Pakistan a fundamentalist dictatorship. It’s only fundamentalist when the government is elected. When the army deposes the elected government, it’s usually a pretty secular dictatorship.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/72 "2010-11-10T19:16:20Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It’s a bit unfair to call Pakistan a fundamentalist dictatorship. It’s only fundamentalist when the government is elected. When the army deposes the elected government, it’s usually a pretty secular dictatorship.

That is not actually true. The army, (more particularly the intelligence services, but with a strong army crossover), has a very strong Islamist contingent and has been one of the bigger worries for the U.S. regarding having Pakistan as an “ally” in the so-called war on terror.

As the Taliban has brought more civil disruption to Pakistan, most of those elements have either changed sides or gone underground, but there was nothing particularly secular about the various despotic regimes that have controlled Pakistan.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/73 "2010-11-10T20:23:52Z")

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I vaguely look forward to China and India carving up Asia into spheres of influence the same way the U.S. and U.S.S.R. did to the world during the cold war.

Interesting times.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/74 "2010-11-10T20:26:06Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It’s a bit unfair to call Pakistan a fundamentalist dictatorship. It’s only fundamentalist when the government is elected. When the army deposes the elected government, it’s usually a pretty secular dictatorship.

Is this some kind of sick joke? The dictatorship from 1977 to 1988 was all about Islamization and introduced all kinds of medieval practices under the guise of Islamization. When the Sharia court he appointed wouldn’t approve stoning for adulterers, he reconstituted the court so that it would.

It was the ISI (military “intelligence”) that built up the Taliban to fight the less religous elements in the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, and has been cultivating Islamic militants to fight India in Kashmir. This was Musharraf’s big claim to fame before he became Chief of Army Staff and later took over in a coup.

Musharraf himself tried to have it both ways, playing up his background as an urban, Catholic school, boy. But there were still elements in the military that he either encouraged or tolerated that were full on Islamist nutcakes.

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**Author:** ![Abisafyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Abisafyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abisafyan)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/75 "2010-11-11T13:48:51Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I vaguely look forward to China and India carving up Asia into spheres of influence the same way the U.S. and U.S.S.R. did to the world during the cold war.
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> Interesting times.

:smack:

more than 40 % indians wears only one piece cloth, coupled with the lowest GDP & you are thinking of world power status for her…!!!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/76 "2010-11-11T13:58:34Z")

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If you could put your personal problems aside instead of making irrelevant objections about clothes, you’d have to acknowledge India is the second largest country in the world by population, has one of the largest economies, and that the country’s economy is going to get a lot bigger over the next few decades.

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**Author:** ![Abisafyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a4c791/32.png) [@Abisafyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abisafyan)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/77 "2010-11-11T14:28:18Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> If you could put your personal problems aside instead of making irrelevant objections about clothes, you’d have to acknowledge India is the second largest country in the world by population, has one of the largest economies, and that the country’s economy is going to get a lot bigger over the next few decades.

india’s economy & a few other things are of course the world biggest but not the largest. Biggest & largest are poles apart!!!  
Elephant is the biggest size wise in jungle; still elephant is laborer & earns some grass for eating as  
Dailywager, elephant can’t hold any world portfolio come what may.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/78 "2010-11-11T14:30:01Z")

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> [@Abisafyan](#):
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> india’s economy & a few other things are of course the world biggest but not the largest. Biggest & largest are poles apart!!!

You really need to have a talk with your English teacher.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/79 "2010-11-11T14:35:54Z")

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> [@Abisafyan](#):
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> Biggest & largest are poles apart!!!

_Definition of LARGE_  
a : exceeding most other things of like kind especially in quantity or size : big

_Definition of BIG_  
2a : large or great in dimensions, bulk, or extent \<a big house\>; also : large or great in quantity, number, or amount \<a big fleet\>

-Merriam-Webster

So this statement is nonsense and your metaphors continue to be impenetrable. If you want to post jabberwocky, find a Lewis Carroll fansite. Try to make yourself clear or I’m going to lock this thread.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-can-t-become-a-lion/560013/80 "2010-11-11T15:15:36Z")

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**Marley** , as bewildering as the OP can be, it has been suggested that he is running his posts through Babelfish(or similar), resulting in the weirdness. I’m one who agrees.

Granted, he still needs to find a way to be clearer but I don’t think he’s being confusing on purpose. (OK, maybe a little)

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