# Buffalo Dash 8 crash was part of 9/11 conspiracy! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 21, 2009, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835 "2009-02-21T09:47:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/21 "2009-02-21T19:51:30Z")
> [@Spiny\_Norman](#): > > It was more fun when we could just point and laugh at the Apollo CTers, agreed. I was just reading something about conspiracy theorists (I don’t quite remember where) and the basic thrust of the article was: it used to be that good conspiracy theories took a long time to develop; new evidence came to light, more witnesses were located. It used to take years or even decades for a decent alternate explanation to find its way into the general public. Now, however, with the advent of the Internet, all one has to do is immediately claim that the official explanation is wrong, and then look for any kind of evidence to support another “theory.” Conspiracy theories these days require no thought to come up with, one just has to instantly disagree with the standard line. I was a conspiracy nutjob when _being_ a conspiracy nutjob used to mean something!😃 Having said that, has anyone found out yet if there were any Jews aboard Flight 3407? JUST KIDDING! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/22 "2009-02-21T20:07:30Z")
Evidently plane crashes are the Swiss army knives of the international cabal. Is downing an entire jet \*really \*the best method for getting rid of one person? Presuming that one has that much power at hand, wouldn’t it be easier to assign one of those super-assassins, like the ones in the movies, and do it quietly and cleanly? I only hope, for the Conspiracy’s sake, that Ms. Eckert forgot to make a backup copy of the world-changingly incriminating evidence that went down with her plane… ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/23 "2009-02-21T20:14:06Z")
> [@Spiny\_Norman](#): > > Seriously impressive for the “East German Stasi” (not to be confused with all those other Stasis) to be that active a decade after East Germany ceased to exist as a nation. Two decades. 1990-2009. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/24 "2009-02-21T20:22:10Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > I realise all that Jack, but aren’t you just a tad alarmed that a growing section of the US population has gone from believing its govt. had their own President assassinated, to thinking its own govt. could be complicit to 9/11, within less than 50 years? > > Surely these sort of doubts can’t be good for the collective psyche - if we have one! We have always had whackjobs and doofuses and losers and basement dwellers and David Hasselhoff fans. They just have Internet connections now. They’re not part of the collective psyche. They belong to the collective psychosis, and you needn’t concern yourself with them unless they get it into their collective nutty little heads that _you_ killed Kennedy. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/25 "2009-02-21T20:23:22Z")
The Secret Masters are putting stuff in the water to turn people into crackpot conspiracy theorists. Fnord. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/26 "2009-02-21T20:47:17Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > Of course, this means the conspirators have figured out how to control geese! I am now expecting a future headline of “9/11 Witness Found Dead Under Giant Pile of Bird Droppings.” I heard those geese crossed over illegally from Canada. That border’s wide open! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/27 "2009-02-21T20:50:12Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > On face value\*, it’d sound like there was sufficient motivation there. Actually, my first question would be is there any good reason to think that the alleged evidence actually existed ? Clearly there isn’t some campaign to kill off anyone who just says they “know the truth” or there’d be a lot more dead conspiracy theorists. If there wasn’t any evidence, then there wasn’t any motive. > [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Can we prove that an EMP device couldn’t possibly have done this? As far as I know it’s perfectly possible; we used such weapons in the first Gulf War IIRC. How effective it would be would depend on how dependent that particular type of plane is on it’s electronics, I guess. Personally, if I wanted to eliminate her and the hypothetical evidence I’d arrange for a convenient “car accident”, and make off with the evidence. Or for her to be the victim of a “random murder” or home invasion by masked criminals. “EMP the plane and hope the evidence is lost in the crash” strikes me as overly elaborate and less reliable. Not that it’s impossible that someone like the CIA wouldn’t do it that way anyway, given some of the things they’ve done or tried to do in the past. Like the various attempts to kill Castro. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/28 "2009-02-21T20:55:43Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > The Secret Masters are putting stuff in the water to turn people into crackpot conspiracy theorists. Fnord. You mean Fnord ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/29 "2009-02-21T21:48:30Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Don’t tell me you actually _buy_ the government’s insane “Bird Strike” explanation!:eek: Don’t tell me _you’re_ in denial about the government’s hordes of killer geese! Or are you one of _them_? (Note: By ‘them’ I refer to the conspirators, not the geese. Unless the killer geese have learned to type. Hmm, this bears looking into…) ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/30 "2009-02-21T21:52:23Z")
[Look, the technology is out there!](http://www.remotedeek.com/) Just think what an upgrade and a bit of overclocking could do with a battalion of them! ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/31 "2009-02-21T23:15:30Z")
> [@](#): > > … the East German Stasi DVD… Eh, the production values were low, the acting sucked, and the exteriors were obviously shot on a soundstage. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/32 "2009-02-21T23:20:12Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > [Look, the technology is out there!](http://www.remotedeek.com/) > > Just think what an upgrade and a bit of overclocking could do with a battalion of them! Termiducks ? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/33 "2009-02-21T23:27:08Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Termiducks ? [SKYNET are already on it.](http://www.wildfilmhistory.org/media/B9E24BBE-F65F-4F10-B09C-D2E14D4D7C94/weblarge_B9E24BBE-F65F-4F10-B09C-D2E14D4D7C94.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/34 "2009-02-21T23:27:29Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > Don’t tell me _you’re_ in denial about the government’s hordes of killer geese! Or are you one of _them_? It explains why all efforts to remove the Canada Goose from the list of birds protected by the 1917 Migratory Bird Treaty Act have met with failure! The general public has no way to differentiate between the highly aggressive, deadly, and polluting fowl, and the trained aggression of the deliberately homicidal geese. It all makes sense, now! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/35 "2009-02-21T23:28:40Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Can we prove that an EMP device couldn’t possibly have done this? There is more evidence for this [dastardly villain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Freeze)than there is for EMP. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/36 "2009-02-21T23:33:03Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > There is more evidence for this [dastardly villain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Freeze)than there is for EMP. But just supposing it was possible, what sort of evidence for it could we expect to see in the flight data recorder? Was it actually recovered in this crash, do we know? ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835/37 "2009-02-21T23:37:43Z")
They’re [analyzing the data from it](http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=5f6c9d69-ba3a-423a-b26c-0aa07336fc0d), so I think it’s been recovered. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffalo-dash-8-crash-was-part-of-9-11-conspiracy/486835.md?page=1)