# Buffy 10/23--probable spoilers

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 24, 2001, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-10-23-probable-spoilers/89249 "2001-10-24T03:50:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![NaSultainne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@NaSultainne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NaSultainne)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2001, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-10-23-probable-spoilers/89249/21 "2001-10-24T22:07:13Z")

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Ok, what is up with everybody? No one wants to bitch about Angel and Buffy? Well, tough, 'cause I do. I knew it was gonna stink when Buffy went to UPN, but I foolishly hoped for _something_ between revived Buffy and Angel. Both series just blew it off. Nothing. Not even a bittersweet “we’ve both moved on”. Nothing. I’m disgusted. I loved Buffy and Angel and all that vamp-slayer angst. Sorry. I did. I wanted more, damnit! And _how_ do both characters handle their unexpected reunion? Off screen. What do they tell their respective gang?

“I don’t want to talk about it”. Blaach.

Absolutely friggin’ pathetic. Could have been so much better. Should have been. Wasn’t.

Ok. I’m through. Now. I take it you all want Buffy and “I’ve always been bad” Spike to become bosom buds. _Sigh_. Ok. I guess. I do like Spike. He’s just not Angel.

The trio, yeah, they’re stupidly funny. And appropriately so. Geeks who never get the girl, taking on the super slayer Buffy and surfing free internet porn? Tell me you don’t know a bunch of guys in high school/college just like 'em?? Gotta love it.

Oh, and I’m with Buffy and Willow/Tara getting into it soon, as well. Moving right in, Joyce’s bedroom, and whatall with the bills(c’mon, some of them have to be _since_ Buffy’s death and neither appears to be working), and Willow venturing into deep dark magic and really enjoying the power…It’s gotta be ripe for a blow up.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-10-23-probable-spoilers/89249/22 "2001-10-25T01:09:21Z")

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**NaSultainne** : I dunno. How many more episodes with Buffy and Angel painfully realizing that they can never be happy together can we take? The first five, six times, I was fine with it. Now? Move on, get over it, do something new. (Like Spike, maybe.) _Angel_ nailed this exactly with Cordelia and Wesley’s dramatic re-enactment for Fred.

Anyone else excited about the musical episode next week? I know I’m all fired up.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-10-23-probable-spoilers/89249/23 "2001-10-25T01:56:18Z")

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The music episode is for Nov. 6. We will have a Halloween episode of Dawn the Vampire Slayer first.

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-10-23-probable-spoilers/89249/24 "2001-10-25T01:58:25Z")

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It’s the week after next, **Miller**. Next week is the Hallowe’en episode.

And I’m with you. We really didn’t need to see Buffy and Angel’s reunion; what would they say/do that we haven’t already seen a dozen times? We know they didn’t fuck, and I doubt anything else they could’ve done would have been very interesting.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-10-23-probable-spoilers/89249/25 "2001-10-25T04:35:05Z")

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And let’s not forget what may be the most telling line of the evening. When Buffy says to Giles, “I know you’ll always be here.” That’s when he gets a look. I expecetd his gaze to fall to the corner of the room, where his bags were already packed.

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-10-23-probable-spoilers/89249/26 "2001-10-25T16:24:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fiver \*  
> \*\*… We know they didn’t fuck, and I doubt anything else they could’ve done would have been very interesting. \*\*

I’ve got a theory: Buffy and Angel could have sex, and because Angel would be all angstful about it, it would not lead to any curse-breaking perfect happiness. Just a thought.

I imagine the communal “I don’t want to talk about it” is gong to result in later deep meaningful discussions with only one other character. Remember they both didn’t want to talk about it when they were asked in front of their respective Scooby gangs.

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