# Buffy FANS only: What are your Peeves? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 11, 2002, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-only-what-are-your-peeves/97463 "2002-03-11T03:42:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2002, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-only-what-are-your-peeves/97463/61 "2002-03-13T09:47:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by amarinth \* > **No, you get soap fans sitting on internet chat sites discussing how unlikely it would be for Mary-Sue to get that haircut when she said she hated Debbie Harry 14 years ago in a discussion with Janie about how rock and roll was corrupting Billy Bob-and-why-don’t-these-writers-understand-continuity?!?** Alright, NOW I’m scared. Is nothing exempt from thy scrutineering? ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2002, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-only-what-are-your-peeves/97463/62 "2002-03-13T16:30:48Z")
Uh-huh. Well, vampiric wussiness aside, I’m eagerly looking forward to Willow’s going Big Bad. What fun. What torment! What anguish! Oh the sweet, sweet pain. [head lolls in dark, sinister merryment] ---
**Author:** ![Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nefarious_chipmunk/32/1045_2.png) [@Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nefarious_Chipmunk)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2002, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-only-what-are-your-peeves/97463/63 "2002-03-13T17:31:12Z")
Is anyone else annoyed by how completely ineffective crosses seem to be over all. It seems like half the time the vamp just knocks the hand with the cross away, causing the cross to skitter across the floor, and leaving the victim attackable. It seems like they would have learned to hold the cross near and tight by now. Or to carry around holy water instead… I am also annoyed that none of the Scoobies ever got combat training. It doesn’t seem like tiit would have been THAT difficult to have Giles include them in some training. I mean, it was what he was trained and born to do. What is a few more students? ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2002, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-only-what-are-your-peeves/97463/64 "2002-03-13T18:54:46Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Miller \* > \*\* Actually, that might explain her behavior. The monks made her useless so she’d be easier to insert into everyone’s memories. Now it’s just habit._\* I can’t believe no one has mentioned the obvious. We know that Joyce and Hank divorced before the move to Sunnydale. What is the problem with “Dawn’s been living with her dad all these years”? Also, wasn’t it theorized that whoever wasn’t part of the Sunnydale group wasn’t included it the monk’s spell? Therefore, the AI folks wouldn’t have any memories of Dawn, eliminating the Angelus problem. -BK ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2002, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-only-what-are-your-peeves/97463/65 "2002-03-13T19:24:11Z")
> [@](#): > > Also, wasn’t it theorized that whoever wasn’t part of the Sunnydale group wasn’t included it the monk’s spell? Therefore, the AI folks wouldn’t have any memories of Dawn, eliminating the Angelus problem. So, does that mean that if the Angel, Inc. folks came to Sunnydale and met Dawn, they’d be like “Hi, who are you?” and, obviously, be kind of incredulous when everyone told them it was “Dawn, Buffy’s sister. Duh,” or would they then be under the now dead/defunct monk’s spell, being in Sunny?😕 ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2002, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-only-what-are-your-peeves/97463/66 "2002-03-13T19:25:13Z")
Angel, Inc. of course being the Angel Investigation team. _\_ ---
**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2002, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-only-what-are-your-peeves/97463/67 "2002-03-13T19:59:21Z")
Where to begin? I’ve basically hated the last three seasons of Buffy. Season four was atrocious. This idea that we HAVE to have a season-long storyline involving a big bad guy is terrible. The Initiative story flailed around with Adam sitting in a cave doing nothing. Very weak. Season five went one better, bringing us a storyline that could be over in three episodes drug out to twenty. Everyone raves about the “The Body” episode but I found it very heavy-handed and obvious. This season started off well, bringing the characters back to the reality they used to live in - making them deal with problems in addition to demons. I liked the show when it nicely balanced the horrors of vampires with the horrors of high school. The post-high school years have been pretty lacking in that area. The musical episode was great, and since then it’s been a long, agonizingly slow decline. We get it - the characters lack direction in the real world. WE GET IT. There’s no need for all of this to have taken so long. The Willow drug addiction thing is absolutely idiotic. Dawn only pouts or shrieks. No one can be happy. I wouldn’t tune in to watch a show called “Buffy the Hamburger Seller.” When Riley and Sam left I wondered if they were flying off to a different show, one where people fight demons and vampires, because I’d be interested in watching a show like that. If I wanted to watch “Dawson’s Creek”, I’d watch “Dawson’s Creek.” And this wedding episode has nearly nailed it shut for me. After making us endure all that wedding crap for 87 years, they don’t even bother to have it? Grr. Argh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-only-what-are-your-peeves/97463.md?page=3)