# Buffy Fans - You watching Ringer Sept 13?  (SMG's new show)

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**Created:** [September 8, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637 "2011-09-08T18:32:41Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/61 "2011-09-21T13:27:47Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Tonight was fun watching Bridget try and hide the body from last week. The long look she gave that circular saw was priceless.

Yeah. The storyline continues to make no sense (the contrivances enabling Bridget to get money out at the bank were particularly painful) but the various ways the writers kept coming up with to have most of the cast almost, but not quite, discover the body had me laughing out loud.

They should just title the show “The Perils of Bridget” and be done with it.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/62 "2011-09-21T14:24:41Z")

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> [@Fugazi](#):
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> I’m kind of curious why she wasn’t curious on how the body got in the trunk before it disappeared. When she left the loft it was in a tarp on the floor, right? I think I would have been freaking at that point. That’s why I wasn’t too surprised when it disappeared.

She knew how the body got there - she put it there once she sent the party staff out to lunch.

Nice to see Miss Pardon My Tits from _Dexter_. That broad is effortlessly menacing.

SMG looked hawt at the party. She had a J-Lo vibe going with the gold tones in the makeup. Overall her makeup was a lot better this ep. She looked a little haggard around the eyes in some shots in the pilot.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/63 "2011-09-21T15:39:20Z")

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> [@Billy\_Baroo](#):
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> Nice to see Miss Pardon My Tits from _Dexter_. That broad is effortlessly menacing.

That’s who that was? (We’re talking about the husband’s business partner, right)

ETA Lila, that was her name. (in Dexter).

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/64 "2011-09-21T16:23:05Z")

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The banking stuff bothered me. Yes, rich clients get specialize service, no problem there. But Bridget was asking to clean out what was set up as an ‘emergency’ account, once with apparently tens of thousands of dollars in it, judging by the wads in her purse.

And the banker doesn’t even ask why she’s doing it? No, “If you’re being blackmailed” or “If someone has been kidnapped” probing?

That seemed really weak to me.

And as for the body getting into the trunk: it seemed to me that she looked at the neatly folded up tarp BEFORE she sent everyone off to lunch? There simply was no way that tarp held a body AND there is no way that anyone could have moved the tarp without discovering the body: she left it on top of the body and just loosely tucked around it. The second anyone grabbed the tarp to move it, the body would have been revealed.

An added problem: when she opens the trunk later and finds it empty – why wasn’t there a big blood stain on the bottom of the nice clean wood? Because there’d been enough bleeding for it to leak out onto the floor during the party.

Which is also bogus, of course. Blood clots and stops being liquid enough to ‘leak’ within an hour or so of death. She shot the guy the night before the party.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/65 "2011-09-21T16:37:29Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> it seemed to me that she looked at the neatly folded up tarp BEFORE she sent everyone off to lunch?

That was my problem. That tarp (with the body) was way over in the corner. I can’t believe someone shoved it all the way over there without saying “WTF is in here…it feels like a body” Also, we have to assume someone moved it over there since A)I’m fairly sure she left it in the middle of the room (remember the circular saw scene) and B)when she yelled at those workers to stop opening the tarp, that’s about where they were and she clearly thought that tarp was her tarp. Also, there should have been a big blood stain on the floor that you’d think _someone_ would have questioned it. Though technically by morning it would have been a brown stain that most people might not recognize as blood.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/66 "2011-09-21T16:44:42Z")

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I also think it’s fair to assume that Bridget had enough money in that bag to skip town and lay low for long enough for the heat to die down. But no, all of a sudden she has this mother/daughter attachment to Juliet… //.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/67 "2011-09-21T23:49:38Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> That’s who that was? (We’re talking about the husband’s business partner, right)
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> ETA Lila, that was her name. (in Dexter).

She’s also played H.G. Wells on Warehouse 13, but she’s never had any “pardon my tits” moments on that one (unfortunately).

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/68 "2011-09-29T20:27:50Z")

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The first ep has finally broadcast in the UK. It didn’t grab me, but it was watchable, and I’ll watch the next one.

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/69 "2011-10-07T02:05:02Z")

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I’m bumping this to see what people thought of the most recent episode. The opening scene where Andrew found out about her really caught my attention until they revealed that it was a dream. But at the end, when she told Gemma who she really was, it could start getting interesting…other then the fact that the previews make it look like Gemma is going to tell everyone who she really is next week, but of course that isn’t going to happen…right?

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/70 "2011-10-07T02:31:12Z")

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[Ringer’s ratings are plummeting.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51510)

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/71 "2011-10-07T03:26:11Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Ringer’s ratings are plummeting.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51510)

I have no idea how to read that, but I’ll admit the show really isn’t that good and I’d probably wouldn’t miss it if it got yanked. But as long as it’s on I’ll stick with it. If nothing else it’s somewhat entertaining, if a bit contrived. But I’ll continue to say I’d rather it was created as a two or three season mini-series. I was telling my sister (who doesn’t watch it) that I think it’s going to get really stupid if she gets out of the current mess and something equally dramatic suddenly pops up in her life.

I have to assume that Siobhan will be coming home in the next week or two, if for no other reason then because they need a ratings bump.

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/72 "2011-10-07T21:53:55Z")

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Watched the premiere last night. It was dreadful. I did watch the whole episode, but spent most of it muttering “I’ll watch this first episode to see if things get any better, but I doubt it.” Nope.

> [@kelly5078](#):
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> As someone posted above, I’ll be more inclined to stick with it if they emphasize the thriller/noir aspects. If it gets all soapy, I’m out.

Let’s see, rich lady has fake life, cheating on her own show husband with her best friend’s husband, now pregnant. Sister kept twin a secret to use in some plot to substitute, then murder her? Something about the drugged up sister causing the death of the other sister’s son - we don’t know the details yet, just the photo and the “you’re forgiven” crap that clearly isn’t true. Oh, and the teen stepdaughter kicked out of boarding school for drugs. Yeah, this show isn’t soapy.

> [@Merneith](#):
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> It could have used more zombies.

Snerk. Yeah, that might have improved it.

> [@phall0106](#):
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> Also, why in the hell didn’t she just tell the doctor, “Oh, the test must have been incorrect–I just got my period and I’m not pregnant”, instead of backing herself into a corner where she obviously can’t suddenly produce a pregnancy. By that point, she knew her sister had been fooling around with someone–didn’t it occur to her by that point that maybe, just maybe, the baby wasn’t her husband’s??? And then she TELLS him that she’s pregnant, and they suddenly announce it to, what appears to be, everyone.

Yep, spot on.

> [@Annie](#):
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> Was it just my wonky DVR or was the green screening on this show particularly dreadful?

Oh yes, the special effects in this show were dreadful. They did better one girl playing twins in Disney’s _The Parent Trap_. The original one from the 70s. The boat and water scene? Ack. _Buffy_ had better special effects. Hell, they’re on a par with _Babylon 5_ and their first gen CGI. Which is scary, given they were a syndicated show on a shoestring budget from nearly 2 decades ago.

> [@Fugazi](#):
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> It’s starting to look like that despite her being an alcoholic, former stripper and prostitute, she’s a better person than her sister.

That was pretty much a gimme in the first episode.

> [@Billy\_Baroo](#):
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> Overall her makeup was a lot better this ep. She looked a little haggard around the eyes in some shots in the pilot.

I think that was there attempt to show her as a recovering druggie and alcoholic, still looking a bit dreadful compared to her sister.

By the way - Siobhan = “Shivonne”?

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/73 "2011-10-07T22:24:01Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> By the way - Siobhan = “Shivonne”?

Yeah, it’s Irish. I used to work with a bunch of folks in Irelands, figuring out the names was always tricky.

Niamh - Neev  
Sioned - Shunaid  
Aoife - Eefa  
Aislinn - Ashlynn

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Sadly it’s all too understandable. I really wanted more of a kick ass, action drama. Suspense is great but it has to be balanced with some action. With Ringer we’re getting a lot of soap and some suspense.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Ringer’s ratings are plummeting.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51510)

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/75 "2011-10-08T01:12:22Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> By the way - Siobhan = “Shivonne”?

I had a friend named Siobhan in college. She went by Chevy (pronounced Shevy like the car not Chevy like the actor). She got less questions about her name that way.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/76 "2011-10-10T06:47:15Z")

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By the way, I watched the premiere of _Nova Terra_ over the weekend. They mostly had better special effects, except I noticed one scene toward the end that used green screen for a large vista from a mountaintop scene, and the visual was almost as jarring. Maybe their budget ran low? They went to the same effects studio? Or TV effects just aren’t up to movie budget levels?

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/77 "2011-10-10T12:10:49Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> By the way, I watched the premiere of _Nova Terra_ over the weekend. They mostly had better special effects, except I noticed one scene toward the end that used green screen for a large vista from a mountaintop scene, and the visual was almost as jarring. Maybe their budget ran low? They went to the same effects studio? Or TV effects just aren’t up to movie budget levels?

Then take the crew out on the water. As I said earlier, it (Ringer) reminded me of old SNL skits with how bad they were. It’s like they weren’t even trying. They were one step away from having an off camera employee tossing buckets off water on them.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/78 "2011-10-10T23:43:24Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Ringer’s ratings are plummeting.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51510)

Keep in mind, it’s on the network that kept Veronica Mars on the air for three years despite it being one of the lowest rated shows around.

Not saying this is Veronica Mars quality TV (oh hell no not saying that) just that if there’s a network out there where a low rated show has even a ghost of a chance, it’s this one.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/79 "2011-10-11T18:00:39Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> As I said earlier, it (Ringer) reminded me of old SNL skits with how bad they were. It’s like they weren’t even trying. They were one step away from having an off camera employee tossing buckets off water on them.

Agreed. It practically made my eyes bleed.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-fans-you-watching-ringer-sept-13-smgs-new-show/595637/80 "2011-10-18T22:21:43Z")

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SMG was on Conan one night last week and it was mentioned the show’s been picked up for a full season.

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