# Buffy Issue #5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 26, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227 "2007-07-26T14:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/1 "2007-07-26T14:23:32Z")
DarkHorse says that it comes out next week - August 1st. But AICN says this week and so does [del]cinescape[/del]mania > **[Herc's Seen BUFFY 8.5!!](http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/33448)** > > I am - Hercules!! Is Buffy the Vampire Slayer transforming the comics industry? Publisher's Weekly has an interesting story here about how “Buffy" mastermind Joss Whedon's new “Season Eight" series is turning first-time... [http://www.mania.com/55505.html](http://www.mania.com/55505.html) So is it out or not? thanks Brian ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/2 "2007-07-26T14:36:19Z")
It’s out, and… [spoiler]… Buffy’s in it. Well, sorta. Kinda. Not really.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/3 "2007-07-26T15:55:23Z")
I just got word yesterday from my comics shop that my 2 copies had hit the mails. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/4 "2007-07-26T16:43:05Z")
Was there any reason there was such a delay between issue 4 and issue 5? Was it because they’re starting a new story arc? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/5 "2007-07-26T17:13:02Z")
I haven’t read issue 5 yet, but I’ve read issues 1-4 and I have a question (spoiler boxed in case anyone who hasn’t read any of them wanders into this thread): How can Warren be alive? We saw The First take on his form during season 7, meaning he was dead, right? Or is he a zombie or ghost or something? ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/6 "2007-07-26T17:15:05Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] How can Warren be alive? We saw The First take on his form during season 7, meaning he was dead, right? Or is he a zombie or ghost or something? [/QUOTE] For the First to take on your form, you just have to have died, not be dead. It took on Buffy’s form, who by that point had died…twice, I think? But who was currently alive. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/7 "2007-07-26T17:17:09Z")
[QUOTE=bouv] Was there any reason there was such a delay between issue 4 and issue 5? Was it because they’re starting a new story arc? [/QUOTE] They also had the first Buffy Omnibus come out between them, which may account for it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/8 "2007-07-26T17:20:38Z")
We don’t know yet. But the Buffyverse seems to operate on the same principles as the LASFS, ie “Death will not release you!” Witness Darla, Holland Manners, Lilah, etc. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Offkenter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f08c70/32.png) [@Offkenter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Offkenter)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/9 "2007-07-26T21:12:06Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] We don’t know yet. But the Buffyverse seems to operate on the same principles as the \*\*LASFS, \*\*ie “Death will not release you!” Witness Darla, Holland Manners, Lilah, etc. 😃 [/QUOTE] (Bolding mine) Um, is it really that hard to GAFIAte from the “Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society?” ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/10 "2007-07-26T21:36:12Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] For the First to take on your form, you just have to have died, not be dead. It took on Buffy’s form, who by that point had died…twice, I think? But who was currently alive. [/QUOTE] But there was a snippet of dialog in issue 3 or 4 that implied that Amy saved Warren from dying… dying and coming back to life is a lot more “special” than being saved from imminent death. Oh well, not a big deal certainly ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/11 "2007-07-26T23:13:16Z")
[QUOTE=Offkenter] Um, is it really that hard to GAFIAte from the “Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society?” [/QUOTE] According to them it is! ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/12 "2007-07-26T23:49:14Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] [spoiler]But there was a snippet of dialog in issue 3 or 4 that implied that Amy saved Warren from dying… dying and coming back to life is a lot more “special” than being saved from imminent death. Oh well, not a big deal certainly[/spoiler] [/QUOTE] I think that was from the disgruntled General guy, wasn’t it? He’d already been shown to not know much about or be interested at all in magic-type-stuff. It’s possible he just didn’t get it. But yeah, like you say, no biggie either way. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/13 "2007-07-27T00:24:25Z")
[spoiler]Actually, it’s Warren who tells Willow “Do you know she had maybe a four second window after my skin came off before I died of shock alone?..Her magic is my skin.” So that is a continuity error of some sort. If The First can only manifest as someone who has died, then Warren doesn’t qualify.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/14 "2007-07-27T06:59:10Z")
I just bought #1 - 4 at Comic Con today (Yay! Comic Con! I can’t believe there’s no Comic Con thread in CS this year ☹ ) and read them all this afternoon. They did a really good job on them. I generally don’t like comics all that much, but these were just like watching eps of the show. I’m _really_ hoping I can find a preview copy of #5 at the Joss Whedon panel on Saturday…I’ll let you guys know! ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/15 "2007-07-27T07:18:21Z")
I am liking the series, tho sometimes the art isn’t that accurate to the faces we’ve come to know and love. TFAW emailed today (yesterday? Thursday.) to say that my copy of #5 is winging its way to me. I have a concern, however, about something in #2 (or was it #3 or #4) Buffy is awakened by a clandestine kiss from the person who is passionately in love with her, and we come to assume it is the Asian slayer (whose name I am too lazy to look up). I sincerely hope they do not turn Buffy gay ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/16 "2007-07-27T07:27:36Z")
**anyrose** , why? ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/17 "2007-07-27T07:33:03Z")
[QUOTE=jellyblue] **anyrose** , why? [/QUOTE] Well, heck they may as well turn the whole cast gay and have Xander and Andrew get together - it just seems so contrary to Buffy’s character - to me anyway eta: or were you asking something else? ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/18 "2007-07-27T07:50:07Z")
Eh, I guess that’s true, but OTOH, it doesn’t seem like the WORST thing that could happen…and lots of people thought it was out of character and horrible for her to hook up with Spike, but that was rather interesting IMO. It was funny that you mentioned that part, though, because I thought it was Willow who kissed her! p.s. I think that slayer’s name is Sattua ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/19 "2007-07-27T08:00:26Z")
well, now you made me go look things up the Asain slayer’s name is Satsu and as for the kiss, apparently Buffy, as well, may have thought, briefly, that is was Willow. Personally, I (and perhaps many many other fans) were hoping it was Xander) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227/20 "2007-07-27T14:53:02Z")
[QUOTE=jellyblue] I just bought #1 - 4 at Comic Con today (Yay! Comic Con! \*\* I can’t believe there’s no Comic Con thread in CS this year \*\* ☹ ) and read them all this afternoon. They did a really good job on them. I generally don’t like comics all that much, but these were just like watching eps of the show. I’m _really_ hoping I can find a preview copy of #5 at the Joss Whedon panel on Saturday…I’ll let you guys know! [/QUOTE] So start one! We leave for Comic-Con in about an hour. Nothing panel-wise we really want to see until the **Eureka** presentation at 4:45. Remember, after the Joss panel tomorrow there is the 10th Anniversary screening of _Once More, With Feeling_ at 9pm. And it was totally Xander that kissed her. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-issue-5/413227.md?page=2)