# Buffy Question **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 25, 2001, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663 "2001-01-25T03:31:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheNerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@TheNerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheNerd)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/1 "2001-01-25T03:31:40Z")
This just occurred to me, which should tell you how slow I can be to pick up on stuff. Is Anne the teen shelter person from yesterday’s Angel the same character that was on the opening episode of Buffy a couple of season ago? The episode I’m thinking of is when Buffy has run away, and she finds that other runaway teens are turning up missing. They were being taken to a demon dimension where time ran differently, and forced to work until they got too old. Anyway, Buffy meets a girl in that episode who recognises her. At the end of the episode that girl asks if she can use the name “Anne” (which Buffy had been using). I don’t recall if the actress was the same, but it’s probable. The characters seem to have a bit in common. “Anne Steele” (as it said on her driver’s license) sounds like a made up name to me. They both said that they were “into vampires” when younger until they met one. And obviously, they both are concerned with runaway teens. I bet that this was obvious already to all you true Buffy fans out there, but I wouldn’t mind some confirmation anyway. ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/2 "2001-01-25T04:05:27Z")
Yep, same girl. She was first seen as Lily/Chantrelle in season 2’s “Lie to Me” and then in the premiere of season 3, Anne. I like how they never directly came out and said it… damn, I love continuity. ---
**Author:** ![Surgoshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Surgoshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surgoshan)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/3 "2001-01-25T04:12:31Z")
What the… You people are thinking too much! Pretty girls! Lookit the pretty girls! ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/4 "2001-01-25T05:25:54Z")
In the first show of season 3, Buffy is living in LA and going by her middle name, Anne. She runs into “Chantarelle”, and they have their trapped-in-hell adventure. At the end of the episode, Chantarelle asks if she can borrow Buffy’s name; that’s how she becomes Anne. During Angel last night, the green informer demon mentioned that she’d changed her names a couple of times, but for completely legal reasons. ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/5 "2001-01-25T05:33:00Z")
Mmm… pretty girls… \ ---
**Author:** ![slackergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@slackergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slackergirl)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/6 "2001-01-25T05:47:50Z")
I was watching with my best friend, who missed the first couple of seasons. When I saw her I screamed “mushroom girl” because I couldn’t remember Chantarelle. My friend now thinks I am completely insane. Well, I’m sure she’s thought it for a while now, but it’s going to take a lot to disprove it after last night. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/7 "2001-01-25T14:50:48Z")
I got a kick out of the iMac product placement in Merle’s lair. The season #3 premier is one of my all time faves. The fight at the end was phenomenal. ---
**Author:** ![hibernicus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hibernicus/32/2802_2.png) [@hibernicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hibernicus)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/8 "2001-01-25T15:12:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by phouka \* > \*\*Chantarelle asks if she can borrow Buffy’s name; that’s how she becomes Anne. > \*\* Well, as Andygirl said, she was known as Lily in “Anne”, but was Chanterelle in “Lie to Me”. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/9 "2001-01-25T17:32:16Z")
Strictly speaking this is an _Angel_ question, not _Buffy_, but I’m trying to be less anal in 2001, so I won’t bring that up. It was great to see Anne again, especially in her new role as a helper and leader of other people who are just like she used to be. This continues the underlying theme of the entire show: redemption. Angel, Cordelia and Wesley are all on a long road to redemption from their shameful or embarrassing histories. Then we have Anne, who we first saw as a foolish teenage member of a cult of vampire-worshippers. Next, as a helpless little-girl-lost ill-equipped for taking care of herself or her boyfriend. She needed Buffy to step in and save the day. But now we see her three years later, determined, smart, capable, doing good. Her story is the show’s story in microcosm. Her redemption happened offscreen, but we saw the genesis of it in the Buffy episode “Anne.” Excellent work. Are there any better shows on TV right now than _Buffy_ and _Angel_? No, there aren’t. Shut up, I said there aren’t! ---
**Author:** ![Peta\_Tzunami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@Peta\_Tzunami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peta_Tzunami)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/10 "2001-01-25T17:49:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andygirl \* > \*\*I like how they never directly came out and said it… damn, I love continuity. \*\* IIRC Lily/Anne never met Angel with Buffy so she wouldn’t connect them and short of coming out and saying “I used to know a vampire slayer…” I don’t think they could work in the relationship TOO easily. (She did meet Spike though.) The one continuity problem I had was that Lilly had a big old heart tatoo on her arm from Anne. Even if she’d had it removed, wouldn’t there be some scarring from something that large? > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Five_ > Strictly speaking this is an Angel question, not Buffy, but I’m trying to be less anal in 2001, so I won’t bring that up. \*\* Technically speaking it would be both since it would mean a sort of Buffy-Angel crossover. 😉 Then Five added… > [@](#): > > **Her redemption happened offscreen, but we saw the genesis of it in the Buffy episode "Anne."** I’d say that at least some of that redemption included the genesis we saw in “Anne” - fighting her way out of that hellish place, not just for her but for the others, getting a job and taking a new name which she associated with a strong role model. Have to hope that Wesley and Cordy weren’t watching the news coverage of the charity event though… ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2001, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-question/51663/11 "2001-01-25T20:34:55Z")
I thought that continuity was SOOOO cool! The second she came on, a blond girl called Anne, working in a homeless shelter, I knew it was related, no such huge coincidence could happen. And I did look closely for the “Ricky” tattoo… Never saw a great shot of her arms, but I still didn’t see it