# Buffy....the movie? Again? Yeesh! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 23, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616 "2010-11-23T02:51:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/1 "2010-11-23T02:51:15Z")
I hope this isn’t true, but Warner Bros. has announced a Buffy movies…that has nothing to do with the show. [Buffy to be a movie…again!](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47540) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/2 "2010-11-23T02:52:17Z")
Joss’ response is very funny: > [@](#): > > ``` > Kristin, I'm glad you asked for my thoughts on the announcement of Buffy the cinema film. This is a sad, sad reflection on our times, when people must feed off the carcasses of beloved stories from their youths—just because they can't think of an original idea of their own, like I did with my Avengers idea that I made up myself. > > Obviously I have strong, mixed emotions about something like this. My first reaction upon hearing who was writing it was, "Whit Stillman AND Wes Anderson? This is gonna be the most sardonically adorable movie EVER." Apparently I was misinformed. Then I thought, "I'll make a mint! This is worth more than all my Toy Story residuals combined!" Apparently I am seldom informed of anything. And possibly a little slow. But seriously, are vampires even popular any more? > > I always hoped that Buffy would live on even after my death. But, you know, AFTER. I don't love the idea of my creation in other hands, but I'm also well aware that many more hands than mine went into making that show what it was. And there is no legal grounds for doing anything other than sighing audibly. I can't wish people who are passionate about my little myth ill. I can, however, take this time to announce that I'm making a Batman movie. Because there's a franchise that truly needs updating. So look for The Dark Knight Rises Way Earlier Than That Other One And Also More Cheaply And In Toronto, rebooting into a theater near you. > > Leave me to my pain! Sincerely, Joss Whedon. > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/3 "2010-11-23T04:42:37Z")
The first movie has almost nothing to do with the show, either, and I already ignore it (after giving it a try) so I’ll give this one a shake, too. I probably won’t pay for it, though, just out of principle. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/4 "2010-11-23T04:43:50Z")
Just more people to add to my list. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/5 "2010-11-23T13:41:58Z")
> [@Hades](#): > > The first movie has almost nothing to do with the show, either, and I already ignore it (after giving it a try) so I’ll give this one a shake, too. ??? The first movie was part of the continuity of the TV show, and it was often mentioned that Buffy had burned down the gym of her previous school. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/6 "2010-11-23T13:54:56Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > ??? The first movie was part of the continuity of the TV show. No it wasn’t, and there were a few episodes including one with a extended flashback sequence which established a few fairly extended points of divergence. I believe Whedon himself has also commented a few times that the film was outside the show’s canon. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/7 "2010-11-23T13:56:42Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > ??? The first movie was part of the continuity of the TV show, and it was often mentioned that Buffy had burned down the gym of her previous school. Only loosely, though. She was, I think, a senior in the first movie and a sophomore when she showed up in the show. She got PMS cramps when vampires were near in the movie, but didn’t in the show. Vampires just died without “poofing” in the show, but “poofed” in the show. It was barely in continuity. And wasn’t her Watcher re-born over and over as the same guy in the movie, too? I only saw it once…before the show came on. ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/8 "2010-11-23T14:07:11Z")
Also, the movie stunk. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/9 "2010-11-23T14:07:21Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > ??? The first movie was part of the continuity of the TV show, and it was often mentioned that Buffy had burned down the gym of her previous school. No, it wasn’t - Whedon specifically and deliberately retconned pretty much the whole thing. Including that. The gym wasn’t burnt down in the movie. Buffy and Pike go from dancing in the wrecked and empty, but standing and unburnt, gym, to riding off on his bike. Then the credits include a news report which interviews students and teachers, apparently in the gym. But, even assuming it was filmed in another part of the school, if the gym had burnt down, it would have been mentioned. It isn’t. The canonical version of the events before the series (to the extent that anything but the TV series is canonical at all) are in the comic book series The Origin, which is based on to the movie script, but brings it in line with the series - vampires and the Slayer function like they do in the series, the gym burns down, etc. So, something LIKE the movie happened, but the movie wasn’t it. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/10 "2010-11-23T14:15:37Z")
Meh. I kinda liked the movie, granted I don’t think I’ve seen it since it came out. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/11 "2010-11-23T17:08:46Z")
I’ll be honest, I never quite understood the levels of fanboy rage we see around here (check out the current **Starship Troopers** thread or any **Star Wars** thread as an example, or the older **LOTR** threads too I suppose) but now I think I get it, because I’m full of fanboy rage and shock at this development. I hope that whatever they do, it just focuses on Buffy. I can probably deal with that. “Oh, this is just the dimension next to the one where there’s nothing but shrimp.” No problem. But if they have the whole Scooby Gang, or Angel, or Spike, I’ll…well I won’t do anything, I suppose, except be really bummed. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/12 "2010-11-23T17:18:27Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > I hope that whatever they do, it just focuses on Buffy. I can probably deal with that. “Oh, this is just the dimension next to the one where there’s nothing but shrimp.” No problem. But if they have the whole Scooby Gang, or Angel, or Spike, I’ll…well I won’t do anything, I suppose, except be really bummed. I think they are basicaly re-imagining the movie, since that is what they have rights to. Therefore, all of Joss’ other stuff from the show shouldn’t appear, including all non-Buffy characters. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/13 "2010-11-24T03:28:42Z")
It’s one of the stupidest ideas I’ve ever heard. When you decide to make a movie because the character/series is very popular, it’s probably best to pay attention when all the fans immediately squeal nooooo! Hell, some of them would probably watch it out of curiosity, but they wouldn’t pay for it, so their viewing’s pointless as far as the studio’s concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/14 "2010-11-24T04:47:34Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > I hope that whatever they do, it just focuses on Buffy. I can probably deal with that. “Oh, this is just the dimension next to the one where there’s nothing but shrimp.” No problem. But if they have the whole Scooby Gang, or Angel, or Spike, I’ll…well I won’t do anything, I suppose, except be really bummed. According to the link in the OP: > [@](#): > > The new movie will be a reboot and is not expected to acknowledge the existence of Giles, Willow, Xander, Spike, Angel, Oz, Cordelia, Anya or any of the other characters created for the TV series. Which seems to be a bad case of Missing The Point, to me. If you’re not going to keep any of the trappings of the show that made the name popular, why bother calling it Buffy at all? Oh wait, I know. To be guaranteed a minimum amount of revenue from people unwittingly drawn in by the name. \ ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/15 "2010-11-24T05:44:31Z")
I’m betting money that this movie is DARKER, _GRITTIER_, _ **AND IN EYE POPPING3D!!** _😃 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/16 "2010-11-24T08:12:29Z")
The only way I’d like it is if they were basically redoing Origins, to have a Buffy movie that’s actually in continuity with the series. Just like I wanted a remake of Stargate with the TV actors and the retcons built in. A real reboot isn’t going to accomplish anything–unless they can get Robert Patterson in it or something. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/17 "2010-11-24T12:47:40Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The only way I’d like it is if they were basically redoing Origins, to have a Buffy movie that’s actually in continuity with the series. Just like I wanted a remake of Stargate with the TV actors and the retcons built in. > > A real reboot isn’t going to accomplish anything–unless they can get Robert Patterson in it or something. Bonus points if A) Plays a credible, scary evil vampire or B) gets to be the guy who gets killed in the first 30 seconds of the film. Hell, I’d be entertained if he played a Badass Normal type who ended up fighting off a group of vampires with an improvised torch. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/18 "2010-11-24T21:59:10Z")
Well, the Buffy movie wasn’t very good - but the movie Buffy was quite spectacular. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/19 "2010-11-24T22:37:40Z")
Maybe they can just have Paul Ruebens die on screen for an hour and a half. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616/20 "2010-11-24T23:04:02Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > I’m betting money that this movie is DARKER, _GRITTIER_, Honestly I think that would be the only way to make a re-boot work. Nobody is going to be able to do Joss Whedon-style humor as well and I’m betting a different style of humor will come across as even more heretical. Not that Joss didn’t do dark ( obviously ), but one can take dark and gritty in a different direction with this franchise without compromising as much, I’d think. Still, whatever direction they go I expect it will be crapola. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buffy-the-movie-again-yeesh/561616.md?page=2)