# Bugs = Mickey, Daffy = Donald, \_\_\_\_ = Goofy?

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**Created:** [June 14, 2016, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bugs-mickey-daffy-donald-____-goofy/757335 "2016-06-14T10:23:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bugs-mickey-daffy-donald-____-goofy/757335/21 "2016-06-14T17:05:59Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> ANd clearly - Pluto == Spike or Sylvester.

Wasn’t Spike in Tom and Jerry cartoons? Or have I missed something again? 😕

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bugs-mickey-daffy-donald-____-goofy/757335/22 "2016-06-14T17:07:56Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> You shouldn’t underestimate Porky’s status in the pantheon. He was one of the original Warner characters and its oldest star; he predated Daffy and Bugs.

I don’t underestimate it. _Au contraire_, I think it’s odd he was excluded from that lineup! :dubious:

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bugs-mickey-daffy-donald-____-goofy/757335/23 "2016-06-14T17:08:14Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Wasn’t Spike in Tom and Jerry cartoons? Or have I missed something again? 😕

He was both.

[Warner Brothers](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/looneytunes/images/5/54/Spikechester1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110208143427)

[MGM](https://media2.giphy.com/media/IUnQIGt0bSoyA/200_s.gif)

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bugs-mickey-daffy-donald-____-goofy/757335/24 "2016-06-14T17:20:12Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> He was both.
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> [Warner Brothers](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/looneytunes/images/5/54/Spikechester1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110208143427)
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> [MGM](https://media2.giphy.com/media/IUnQIGt0bSoyA/200_s.gif)

Aha! 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bugs-mickey-daffy-donald-____-goofy/757335/25 "2016-06-14T18:03:25Z")

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I’d say that Bugs, Daffy and Porky are Warner bros big three, even if the three of them have rarely been friends.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bugs-mickey-daffy-donald-____-goofy/757335/26 "2016-06-14T22:35:22Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Wait - you think bugs and daffy are _ **pals** _ ??

[Yes, I do.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VitriolicBestBuds/WesternAnimation) (Warning - TV Tropes)

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bugs-mickey-daffy-donald-____-goofy/757335/27 "2016-06-16T00:07:32Z")

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Munch’s screamer

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bugs-mickey-daffy-donald-____-goofy/757335/28 "2016-06-16T01:23:31Z")

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The obvious answer – if you’re up on your old Cartoon history – is Goofy = Goopy Geer.  
Goopy Geer is a virtually forgotten Warner Brothers character who first appeared in 1932. He appears in both light and dark colored versions. The dark one looks suspiciously like Goofy.

Goofy (originally called “The Goof”) first appeared in cartoons a month after Goopy, and under the name “Dippy Dawg”. I’ve long wondered if somebody was stealing from somebody else. Wikipedia claims that the virtually simultaneous appearance of the two means that neither one copied the other. But I can’t help but think that the transition from “Dippy Dawg” to “The Goof” to “Goofy” seems a little too close to the initial “Goopy Geer”. I suspect Disney stole at least the name from Warner Brothers.

> **[Goopy Geer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goopy_Geer)**
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> Goopy Geer is an animated cartoon character created in 1932 for the Merrie Melodies series of cartoons from Warner Bros. He's a singing, dancing, piano-playing dog who is considered to be "the first Merrie Melodies star", although he only starred in three cartoons.
> The character is a tall, lanky anthropomorphic dog with scruffy whiskers and long, expressive ears. He was "a wisecracking entertainer -- 'part comedian, part musician and part dancer' -- inspired by vaudeville showmen of \[the 1930s\]....

Better picture of Goopy:

[https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=Goop+Geer&fr=yfp-t&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F\_\_cb20110816223139%2Flooneytunes%2Fimages%2F7%2F7d%2F188722\_10150144794698926\_223597233925\_6462750\_5836853\_n.jpg#id=1&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F\_\_cb20110816223139%2Flooneytunes%2Fimages%2F7%2F7d%2F188722\_10150144794698926\_223597233925\_6462750\_5836853\_n.jpg&action=click](https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=Goop+Geer&fr=yfp-t&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F __cb20110816223139%2Flooneytunes%2Fimages%2F7%2F7d%2F188722_10150144794698926_223597233925_6462750_5836853_n.jpg#id=1&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__ cb20110816223139%2Flooneytunes%2Fimages%2F7%2F7d%2F188722_10150144794698926_223597233925_6462750_5836853_n.jpg&action=click)  
Fanart showing Goopy and Goofy side by side:

[https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=Goop+Geer&fr=yfp-t&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffc09.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Fi%2F2012%2F214%2F3%2Ff%2Fgoofy\_meets\_goopy\_geer\_by\_ozzyguy-d59le93.png#id=0&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffc09.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Fi%2F2012%2F214%2F3%2Ff%2Fgoofy\_meets\_goopy\_geer\_by\_ozzyguy-d59le93.png&action=click](https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=Goop+Geer&fr=yfp-t&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffc09.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Fi%2F2012%2F214%2F3%2Ff%2Fgoofy_meets_goopy_geer_by_ozzyguy-d59le93.png#id=0&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffc09.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Fi%2F2012%2F214%2F3%2Ff%2Fgoofy_meets_goopy_geer_by_ozzyguy-d59le93.png&action=click)

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