# Bullied Grandmother...really? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854 "2012-06-21T16:26:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/161 "2012-06-30T06:26:01Z")
I mean… What?! ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/162 "2012-06-30T06:53:17Z")
> [@PoorYorick](#): > > That’s great, but I would have been more impressed if he’d have made his kid do the apologizing. To the monitor, in person. I never understood that concept. Forced apologies are worthless. An apology has value only if the person (child or adult) really feels sorry. It might happen, of course, that the kid feels really sorry after some good talking to, but in most cases, he’s going to feel sorry mostly for having been caught and being punished. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/163 "2012-06-30T08:11:40Z")
> [@InternetLegend](#): > > . The article also says the students will be transferred to “the district Reengagement Center”… What the hell is a “district reengagement center”? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/164 "2012-06-30T08:16:49Z")
Oops. Double post. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/165 "2012-06-30T08:20:04Z")
A place where they’re fitted with electronic personality modifiers. 😃 It’s be funny if they ever start to make fun of someone again, they sing the same song Cartman sang. “I love to sing-a, about the something something something in the Spring-a…” 😃 Those kids suck ass, and they were made a HUGE fucking example of with a one-year suspension. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/166 "2012-06-30T11:39:17Z")
If you can’t do the time…don’t let someone video-record you and then upload it to youtube. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/167 "2012-06-30T12:19:51Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > When they come back their eyes will glow and they’ll be able to read each other’s thoughts. And they’ll be Chinese. And— I hope— discouraged from playing jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/168 "2012-06-30T13:40:27Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > If you can’t do the time…don’t let someone video-record you and then upload it to youtube. Agreed. Especially your immature peers. Hey, as soon as someone started filming, the nearest wannbe-cool-as-shit 12 year old jumps into it, just so he can tell other kids, “Wait! Hear that guy? That’s ME, dude!” :rolleyes: Brilliant. This is why in all these zombie movies we don’t see a lot of zombies heading for middle school braaaaaains. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/169 "2012-06-30T13:45:46Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Sounds kind of… Maoist, like being transferred to a reeducation center until you confess and repent. > > All well and good with me. Let the kids spend some time in the gulag. Fits in with the general tone of this message board. Conform or die. Seems a bit over the top but it’s likely a reaction to the exposure. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/170 "2012-06-30T13:51:00Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > If you can’t do the time…don’t let someone video-record you and then upload it to youtube. Upstream you mentioned a Ms. Nash. I have my own anecdote. I went to school on Dublin’s Northside (in Fairview for you Irish Dopers). Very wroking class school We harassed a young trainee teacher to the point that she started crying. I know, lovely kids. She ran next door to the male teacher in the next class. Won’t name names but he was probably in his 30’s then but without doubt one if the scariest people I ever met. Really into Sinn Fein, wore the black armband during the Hunger Strikes. Anyways, he came into the class room and said that we needed to cut it out but that if we didn’t, he’d get us outside of school. He threatened to batter us after school. As we walked home. He never raised his voice, didn’t use hyperbole, he just stated a fact. I’m still afraid of him but she never had a problem with us again! ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/171 "2012-06-30T14:19:23Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Fits in with the general tone of this message board. Conform or die. Yeah. It’s a pity there’s never any disagreement here. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/172 "2012-06-30T14:32:58Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > What the hell is a “district reengagement center”? I would assume that’s the name they’ve given to the area’s “school for bad kids”. It’s not unusual for a school district to have a special program for kids who got kicked out of their neighborhood schools or are considered to be “at risk” for other reasons (e.g. trouble with the law, drug problems, pregnancy). ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/173 "2012-06-30T14:47:33Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Yeah. It’s a pity there’s never any disagreement here. Stray from the left of centre orthodoxy and meltdown ensues. You’ve been here long enough to know that. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/174 "2012-06-30T14:51:07Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I would assume that’s the name they’ve given to the area’s “school for bad kids”. It’s not unusual for a school district to have a special program for kids who got kicked out of their neighborhood schools or are considered to be “at risk” for other reasons (e.g. trouble with the law, drug problems, pregnancy). Pregnancy? Really? They’re sent to a different school? Did not know that. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/175 "2012-06-30T15:22:01Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Pregnancy? Really? They’re sent to a different school? Did not know that. Sometimes. It depends on the district and the specific situation. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/176 "2012-06-30T15:33:10Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > A year is overkill brought about by overexposure. If that video had just been privately circulated I doubt there’d have been more than a wrist slap; this is messing with the rest of their lives- making them graduate a year behind their classmates and all- and could conceivably cause massive financial hardship for their families, all for an afternoon’s bad behavior. I mentioned this before, but the year-long suspension was rumored during the two days when this was just a local story. And they won’t graduate a year later. They’ll spend the year in an “alternative school” and move up to 10th grade as scheduled in 2013. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/177 "2012-06-30T15:42:12Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I mentioned this before, but the year-long suspension was rumored during the two days when this was just a local story. > > And they won’t graduate a year later. They’ll spend the year in an “alternative school” and move up to 10th grade as scheduled in 2013. Even so, I still think it’s overkill and brought about more by the publicity than by the actual offense. There’s worse bullying than that every single day of the school year at many schools across the nation that even if reported result in jack being done about it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/178 "2012-06-30T16:34:04Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Wait. What?! When did I ever say you did? Okay, I appologize – I misread your comment. The rest of what I said stands. It was bullying, pure and simple. Even if she was in a petition of authority, those kids ganged up on her and said some pretty hateful things. If not bullying, wouldn’t you at least say it’s harassment? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/179 "2012-06-30T16:54:46Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Okay, I appologize – I misread your comment. The rest of what I said stands. It was bullying, pure and simple. Even if she was in a petition of authority, those kids ganged up on her and said some pretty hateful things. If not bullying, wouldn’t you at least say it’s harassment? Of course, I would say it’s harassment. I thought I made that clear. My point is that harassing an authority figure is not “bullying”. She was an authority figure. She lost control of the situation, true, but she _is still the authority figure_. Yelling at an authority figure, no matter how off the chain and how vicious the insults, is not “bullying”. She was a person _in authority_. Why is that so hard for people to understand? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854/180 "2012-06-30T16:56:59Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Even so, I still think it’s overkill and brought about more by the publicity than by the actual offense. There’s worse bullying than that every single day of the school year at many schools across the nation that even if reported result in jack being done about it. I agree that there’s worse, but schools keep getting shit for not doing anything about bullying. If these kids have to be made an example to deter others from being assholes, I’m all for it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bullied-grandmother-really/625854.md?page=10)