# Bulls and Cows

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 8, 2020, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561 "2020-08-08T05:39:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/101 "2020-08-11T16:36:30Z")

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Alright!

Now I’m on a bit of a different schedule from you guys so I’m not sure how this will go, but I’m thinking of a four digit number that’s meaningful to me …

🟣 🟣 🟣 🟣

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/102 "2020-08-11T16:38:07Z")

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3210?

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/103 "2020-08-11T17:04:40Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Now I’m on a bit of a different schedule from you guys so I’m not sure how this will go

It really doesn’t matter. We can submit our guesses, and you will process them when you want.  
🙂

My guess is 7654.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/104 "2020-08-11T17:18:29Z")

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7654 - 1 bull

How do you do the table thing?

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/105 "2020-08-11T17:26:16Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> 7654 - 1 bull

You forgot about Prof.Pepperwinkle’s 3210.

You can inform us traditionally, if you don’t know how to build a table.  
I will look for the source now.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/106 "2020-08-11T17:34:16Z")

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This thread:

> [@We're All Here. Now What? (Basic Tutorial)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-all-here-now-what-basic-tutorial/911081#heading--tables):
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> Table of Contents Note: this post was made before the transition. Any or all of it may already be wrong, outdated, or muddleheaded. I’ll try to update as necessary. I have a bunch of pretty pictures to go along with it, but images take forever to upload tonight Important: Discourse is always infinite scroll. There is currently no (good) way to add pagination or a nested view. Sorry. Basic Tutorial (Took it out. Ran out of characters.) [Setting the Default View](#heading--defaultview)[Setting Up Notifications](#heading--settingupnotifications)[T…](#heading--themeandtextsize)

In the section about tables, you should use the part after this line:

> [@We're All Here. Now What? (Basic Tutorial)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/were-all-here-now-what-basic-tutorial/911081/1):
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> To make a table with HTML (I haven’t found a way to center using this method):

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/107 "2020-08-11T17:34:31Z")

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3210 - 1 bull 2 cows. This may be a quick one!

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/108 "2020-08-11T17:39:20Z")

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| guess | Bulls | Cows |
| --- | --- | --- |
| 3210 | 1 | 2 |
| 7654 | 1 | 0 |

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/109 "2020-08-11T17:44:31Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> This may be a quick one!

Not necessarily.

My guess now is 3219.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/110 "2020-08-11T19:10:51Z")

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8012?

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/111 "2020-08-11T20:27:44Z")

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Although there are are still something like 30 numbers that are logically consistent with the evidence we have, I suspect I know the answer. If I’m right then 3219 will yield 1 bull and 2 cows and 8012 will yield 0 bulls and 2 cows.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/112 "2020-08-11T23:24:14Z")

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| guess | Bulls | Cows |
| --- | --- | --- |
| 3210 | 1 | 2 |
| 7654 | 1 | 0 |
| 3219 | 1 | 1 |
| 8012 | 2 | 0 |

🙂

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/113 "2020-08-11T23:28:59Z")

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3712?

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/114 "2020-08-11T23:49:56Z")

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The number I was thinking of obviously wasn’t right. I think there are two possibilities remaining and I have no basis for picking between them, so I’ll wait until after the results from Prof.Pepperwinkle’s latest guess.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/115 "2020-08-12T01:25:23Z")

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| guess | Bulls | Cows |
| --- | --- | --- |
| 3210 | 1 | 2 |
| 7654 | 1 | 0 |
| 3219 | 1 | 1 |
| 8012 | 2 | 0 |
| 3712 | 2 | 0 |

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/116 "2020-08-12T01:58:10Z")

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1.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/117 "2020-08-12T03:02:45Z")

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That is indeed the one! It’s the postcode of the suburb of [Parkville](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Parkville+VIC+3052/@-37.7861511,144.9332635,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6ad644d33d347eff:0x1c045678462e3460!8m2!3d-37.7862363!4d144.9474178) where I formerly lived and currently work 🕶

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/118 "2020-08-12T03:25:26Z")

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OK, I’m thinking of a four-digit number. You may begin guessing.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/119 "2020-08-12T03:30:28Z")

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I will submit the first guess: 9753.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bulls-and-cows/917561/120 "2020-08-12T03:33:06Z")

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An inspired guess. 9753 has two bulls and one cow.

| # | guess | Bulls | Cows |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | 9753 | 2 | 1 |

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