# Bumper Sticker: So Many Christians.... **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 22, 2005, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338 "2005-06-22T11:15:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/21 "2005-06-22T15:49:16Z")
Not offensive, just ignorant. While chasing them may provide much needed exercise, christians are sometimes loaded with fat, artificial chemicals, and antibiotics. Sometimes they are armed and refuse to accept thier fate, so may inflict damage upon your pet. Much better to feed your lions butcherd meat sourced from domesticated livestock. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/22 "2005-06-22T16:42:22Z")
It is offensive, but somewhat mittigated by the fact that you cannot take seriously a threat to feed Christians to Lions in this day and age. I think it would be the same effect as a sticker saying “So many Witches, so few Witchfinders” or “So many Balsphemers, so few stonings” ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/23 "2005-06-22T16:54:08Z")
Not offensive. A little annoying- but the one that rubs me the wrong way the most is the one about not thinking in church. I can not stand people who act or talk like people who are religious are stupid(especially Christians, double especially conservative or evangelical or fundamentalist Christians). On the other hand, I would probably assume that anyone who had that bumper sticker, especially in conjunction with the others described was not someone I would have a great deal of interest in spending much time with. I’m not a big advocate of prayer in schools- especially formal, ritualized prayer. But, I react very badly to the assumption that spirituality indicates an inability or unwillingness to think for oneself. ---
**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/24 "2005-06-22T16:56:52Z")
The reason I dislike the saying “Christians Aren’t Perfect, Just Forgiven” so much is that I have met a few proclaimed Christians who use it as a “Free sin” pass card. If they are rude, unthoughtful, arrogant, or basically act like a jerk, it doesn’t matter. They are already forgiven! One person in particular I know is notorius for this. He’s was late to a family function, failed to call in (we’re talking a few days late here) and pretty much had the entire family worried that he was dead. When he arrived at last, apparently after some sightseeing, and told how worried his disappearance had made everyone his response was, “Oh well, God will forgive me.” The point he and these bumper stickers fail to grasp is this: You are only forgiven if you are actually sorry for being an asshat! Sorry, I’ll ramble off now. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/25 "2005-06-22T17:05:25Z")
I’d say the others represented a valid opinion; seperation of church and state. The fish and chips one was on the border; no message but silly. But the lions one wasn’t a political message, it was a hostile one directed against people. So it crossed the line and was offensive. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/26 "2005-06-22T17:43:57Z")
> [@Bippy the Beardless](#): > > I think it would be the same effect as a sticker saying “So many Witches, so few Witchfinders” or “So many Balsphemers, so few stonings” I imagine the witches one would get the Wiccan crowd up in arms. Particulary the ones who go on about the “burning times” ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/27 "2005-06-22T17:51:28Z")
I find the lions sticker about as offensive as the “forgiven” sticker. For some reason, I find the “forgiven” sticker more grating, though. Perhaps it’s the whole “get out of sin free card” thing that **Blackclaw** mentioned. The fish ‘n’ chips sticker, OTOH, is hilarious. I want one. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/28 "2005-06-22T18:12:26Z")
Well, I assume the person didn’t mean it seriously, but it was still offensive. “So Many Uppity Blacks, So Few Lynch Mobs” “So Many Gays, So Few Phelps” “Lorena Bobbitt for Surgeon General” Maybe it’s just me, but it seems you need a lot more baggage to take offense at a “Christians Aren’t Perfect, Just Forgiven” sticker than the one in the OP. And the Darwin fish back and forth are something else entirely. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/29 "2005-06-22T19:02:36Z")
Not offensive to me, but I’m not Christian. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/30 "2005-06-22T19:56:58Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > Well, the bible teaches that only God can judge. If someone is a true Xtian, then they would try hard not to judge others. Could you tell me where in the Bible it says this? > [@](#): > > That is one of the Xtian philosophies that I can get on board with. I don’t think it’s cool to judge people. It’s difficult not to do it, but it’s a worthy moral to strive towards. Could you describe what you mean by “judge people”? I do this quite often and it’s not nessessarily a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/31 "2005-06-22T20:00:44Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > Well, the bible teaches that only God can judge. No, it doesn’t. The infamous “Judge not, lest ye be judged” passage condemns hypocrisy, not judgmentalism _per se_. (Hence Christ’s exclamation of “You hypocrites!” as well as the exhortation to remove the plank in one’s eye _before_ pointing out the speck in someone else’s.) ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/32 "2005-06-22T20:09:38Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > Could you tell me where in the Bible it says this? > > Could you describe what you mean by “judge people”? I do this quite often and it’s not nessessarily a bad thing. No, I can’t tell you where in the bible it says that. I’ve just heard it. I guess I don’t know what I’m talking about. 😃 I don’t think being judgmental is a good character trait. I prefer to live and let live. Most of what other people do is absolutely none of my business. I’m not going to judge them for things I know nothing about. The decisions and actions they make are their business, not mine. That’s not to say I don’t ever find myself making a judgment, but I do try to be aware of it. And of course, I have to make decisions based on what’s best for me, so that may sometimes include dropping someone as a friend or voting for one candidate over the other, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/33 "2005-06-22T20:17:22Z")
Yeah, it’s offensive. On the other hand, I saw a bumper sticker some time ago that said “Doing my best to piss off the Religious Right.” I suppose that’s offensive, too, but if I could find one, I’d put it on my car! ---
**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/34 "2005-06-22T20:25:15Z")
I’m not a Christian, but I’d find that bumper sticker somewhat offensive. Any hostility directed at an ethnic or religious group is deeply uncool in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/35 "2005-06-22T20:27:11Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > No, I can’t tell you where in the bible it says that. I’ve just heard it. I guess I don’t know what I’m talking about. 😃 No, you had it right the first time. Romans 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way. James 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/36 "2005-06-22T20:39:55Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > No, it doesn’t. The infamous “Judge not, lest ye be judged” passage condemns hypocrisy, not judgmentalism _per se_. (Hence Christ’s exclamation of “You hypocrites!” as well as the exhortation to remove the plank in one’s eye _before_ pointing out the speck in someone else’s.) Yeah but what about the, “Let him without sin cast the first stone” ? What’s the deal with that one? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/37 "2005-06-22T20:57:50Z")
Offensive but funny. Of course, I live in a town that is about 50% Mormon and 50% Baptist. The back of my truck has a very round fish that says “Buddha.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnac_the_Magnificent)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/38 "2005-06-22T21:00:37Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > I don’t think being judgmental is a good character trait … That’s not to say I don’t ever find myself making a judgment, but I do try to be aware of it. And of course, I have to make decisions based on what’s best for me, so that may sometimes include dropping someone as a friend or voting for one candidate over the other, etc. In other words, judging another person’s conduct, attitudes, beliefs, values, history, public statements and treatment of others–whether good or bad–is okay sometimes? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/39 "2005-06-22T21:15:35Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > No, I can’t tell you where in the bible it says that. I’ve just heard it. I guess I don’t know what I’m talking about. 😃 It’s in a Metallica song. Isn’t that more important than the Bible anyway? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338/40 "2005-06-22T21:22:33Z")
I think the lion sticker is funny because it conjures up an amusing image in my mind. Whereas I’d be horrified if Christians were really fed to lions today, because many of my loved ones are Christians, and even _I_ could be called a Christian depending on who is doing the categorizing. Yet the Christians are forgiven sticker rubs me the wrong way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumper-sticker-so-many-christians/309338.md?page=3)