# Bunch of kids trash vacation home and tweet it

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 20, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bunch-of-kids-trash-vacation-home-and-tweet-it/669331 "2013-09-20T18:07:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bunch-of-kids-trash-vacation-home-and-tweet-it/669331/61 "2013-09-24T19:35:49Z")

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I wonder why he would have left the eagle statuette from his dead son’s grave in a partially trashed house? Somewhere someone(s) ain’t coming clean.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bunch-of-kids-trash-vacation-home-and-tweet-it/669331/62 "2013-09-24T22:09:40Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> That was spectacularly horrifying.

Yeah. Sorry about that.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bunch-of-kids-trash-vacation-home-and-tweet-it/669331/63 "2013-09-25T14:54:45Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> I’m glad this kind of thing is being taken more seriously these days. 25 years ago when a similar event occurred [http://www.salon.com/1997/08/13/excerpt970813/](http://www.salon.com/1997/08/13/excerpt970813/) the story did not make the national news - in fact, it did not become known outside of the area in which it happened until the perpetrators became notorious for a later (worse) crime. The wrecking of a house and its contents resulted in no consequences at all for the people who did it.

Wow. That story is disgusting. I wonder if \*\*Rachellelogram \*\*also thinks it’s right no one was charged with anything there.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bunch-of-kids-trash-vacation-home-and-tweet-it/669331/64 "2013-09-27T17:32:13Z")

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Welp, [arrests have been made](http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-the-guy-who-allegedly-organized-the-massive-rager-th). Six people, 17-21.

They’re saying that the “ringleader” was a homeless teen that Holloway’s family had let stay with them at some point.

Huh.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bunch-of-kids-trash-vacation-home-and-tweet-it/669331/65 "2013-09-27T18:08:31Z")

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Only one of the six who were arrested is a minor.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bunch-of-kids-trash-vacation-home-and-tweet-it/669331/66 "2013-09-27T18:38:10Z")

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Yeah I wonder if they didn’t even bother going after everyone they found who was under age?

The 17-year-old is the one who stole the eagle statue. Being that she took a photo of herself leaving with it, and either admitted to stealing it when she returned it or someone admitted it for her, I guess the cops couldn’t turn a blind eye to her.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bunch-of-kids-trash-vacation-home-and-tweet-it/669331/67 "2013-11-13T22:11:33Z")

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[Interesting update on this story today.]([» What Happened at Brian Holloway’s House?](http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9893855/brian-holloway-house%5C)) While the kids did do some damage to the house, which is repugnant, the house was already in bad shape and the partygoers were responsible for maybe one graffiti tag; the rest was already there. Holloway failed to mention any of the existing damage, which is extensive. He also hasn’t said what he is going to do with the money he’s raised. I suppose the worst case scenario, depending on how much he made, is that he’ll buy back the house back from the bank and then have to make a few repairs because of the party and some other repairs that would have been necessary anyway. A local construction worker said the house is in such bad shape that a buyer might just tear the whole thing down. In the best case scenario a guy who was wrong used the situation for self-aggrandizement and just fudged the truth here and there.

> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Apart from Holloway’s own statements, has there been any evidence that parents are threatening to sue him? Because he’s coming across a bit of a nutjob in [this interview.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSvadf9e_AI) Jump to 2:50 in or so, though the whole thing is worth watching. Anyway, they ask him about a report that a neighbor claims the house is in foreclosure, and is falling into disrepair (which by no means excuses what the kids did in the slightest). His response - “I only have one neighbor, and I’ve never let him in my house, because he beats his wife.” and later “Yes, it’s in foreclosure because I told the bank I won’t pay the note, because I refuse to be pushed around.”

He sounds like a nut in this story, too.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bunch-of-kids-trash-vacation-home-and-tweet-it/669331/68 "2013-11-15T22:57:14Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> Don’t put words in my mouth. I was merely pointing out **GusNSpot’s** ridiculous hyperbole. Did I say it’s okay to trash someone’s house? No. I simply don’t think every teen at the party deserves to have this incident follow them for the rest of their lives.

No one put words in your mouth. You need to learn both how to understand the post you were responding to and to actually think about the implications of what you say.

Because the clear interpretation of what you said is that, since other teens do stupid things, these kids should be excused. If you wanted to qualify that remark, you should have, well, actually qualified that remark.

Don’t speak in absolutes if you don’t want people to take it as an absolute.

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