# Bundy's and ilk go free. Damn them **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617 "2017-08-25T00:29:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/101 "2017-08-27T11:47:06Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > So all the people in the country here illegally, all the people who occupy Wall Street, protesters blocking street would all be fair game for extrajudicial execution? They already are, and always have been. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/102 "2017-08-27T22:59:13Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Some of the government officials being white? Try being precise – the government officials who made the call to aerial bomb the black occupiers and then to let the city block burn to the ground were white. > > In any event, you’re getting off track, for the issue under discussion (“ **Bundy’s and ilk go free. Damn them** ”) isn’t whether armed occupiers should be removed, but rather that armed occupiers should be appropriately penalized for their actions. > > Scumpup, the issue is not that the MOVE occupiers were killed for being black. The issue is that the Bundys et alia occupiers were cut passes because they were white. > > Do you believe for a moment that if a group of armed blacks occupied Malheur in precisely the same way that the Bundys et allia did would have been cut loose by the white jury? You are able, I am sure, to give me something beyond what your gut tells you over why MOVE was firebombed and the Bundy tards were not? Which of these do you consider the ideal outcome? [ul] [li]Bundy tards and MOVE massacred[/li][li]Bundy tards but not MOVE massacred[/li][li]MOVE but not Bundy tards massacred[/li][li]Neither Bundy tards nore MOVE massacred[/li][/ul] Please explain your answer. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/103 "2017-08-28T02:38:01Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I doubt he knows the difference. > > In any case, the alleged crime happened in a federal wildlife refuge. How would Oregon have grounds to sue the federal prosecuting attorney(s)??? That I don’t know. I’m sure there’s something though. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/104 "2017-08-28T02:41:26Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > That I don’t know. I’m sure there’s something though. You don’t know, but you’re going to whine about it on the internet, anyway. You go, girl. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/105 "2017-08-28T02:52:12Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > You don’t know, but you’re going to whine about it on the internet, anyway. > > You go, girl. :rolleyes: At least he’s whining about something significant. Now why don’t you run along and look for typos? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/106 "2017-08-28T02:57:49Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > At least he’s whining about something significant. > Now why don’t you run along and look for typos? Have you found your walker yet? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/107 "2017-08-28T03:01:08Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Have you found your walker yet? Yeah, it’s behind the couch. Haven’t used it in years. When did you last use your brain? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/108 "2017-08-28T03:04:15Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Yeah, it’s behind the couch. > Haven’t used it in years. When did you last use your brain? You’re actually right about one thing. Talking to you is useless. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/109 "2017-08-28T03:10:29Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > You’re actually right about one thing. Talking to you is useless. First sign of losing is to claim something that wasn’t in the post. Next thing you know, you’ll be changing quotes to bolster your so-called arguments. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/110 "2017-08-28T03:17:04Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > First sign of losing is to claim something that wasn’t in the post. Next thing you know, you’ll be changing quotes to bolster your so-called arguments. Yeah, sure. What did I claim that wasn’t in the post? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/111 "2017-08-28T05:43:39Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > You are able, I am sure, to give me something beyond what your gut tells you over why MOVE was firebombed and the Bundy tards were not? > > Which of these do you consider the ideal outcome? > [ul] > [li]Bundy tards and MOVE massacred[/li][li]Bundy tards but not MOVE massacred[/li][li]MOVE but not Bundy tards massacred[/li][li]Neither Bundy tards nore MOVE massacred[/li][/ul] > > Please explain your answer. Simple. Both parties should have been convicted. The whites were not. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/112 "2017-08-28T07:50:41Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Simple. Both parties should have been convicted. The whites were not. You didn’t answer the question. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/113 "2017-08-28T12:31:05Z")
Demanding that I must chose my preference from a list of massacres is asinine. If you wish to believe that race was not the primary reason the white occupiers were not convicted, that is your prerogative. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/114 "2017-08-28T18:43:28Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > You are able, I am sure, to give me something beyond what your gut tells you over why MOVE was firebombed and the Bundy tards were not? > > Which of these do you consider the ideal outcome? > [ul] > [li]Bundy tards and MOVE massacred[/li][li]Bundy tards but not MOVE massacred[/li][li]MOVE but not Bundy tards massacred[/li][li]Neither Bundy tards nore MOVE massacred[/li][/ul] > > Please explain your answer. You don’t think that what happened to these MOVE folks and the crispy folks at Waco, who were white, may have played a role in how the police act now? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/115 "2017-08-28T19:00:29Z")
Of course MOVE and Waco were instrumental in the authorities not blowing the shit out of the white armed occupiers in Malheur. That is not the issue. The issue is that the white jury gave them a pass. Try reading the OP, you dumb racist fuck. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/116 "2017-08-28T19:08:51Z")
On the upside, Ammon, Ryan, Cliven and several others are still being held on the bunkerville charges. Even if they are found not guilty, they already have been in jail for a year and a half and may well still be in custody next February. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/117 "2017-08-28T21:17:25Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > You don’t know, but you’re going to whine about it on the internet, anyway. > > You go, girl. :rolleyes: And you’re gonna whine about my whining? Girl you better don’t 😃😃😛 ---
**Author:** ![Pippers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5a626/32.png) [@Pippers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pippers)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/118 "2017-08-28T22:17:12Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Both MOVE and Malheur were armed civil rights occupations. In both matters it was appropriate for the powers that be to direct that the occupations be stopped. In both matters the person with the ultimate authority was black (the black president or the black mayor), but in both matters, the people who determined and carried out the outcomes were all white. > > With MOVE the people with the immediate power to decide where white and they chose to kill the blacks, whereas with the Bundys, the people with the immediate power to decide were white and chose to release the whites. The same as Standing Rock. Putting a pipeline in but have to reroute because the white people in the town it would affect didn’t want it there. Solution, send thru by the Indians sacred land and when they protest sic dogs on them, hose them with cold water in freezing temperatures, shoot them with rubber bullets, and spray them with mace. ---
**Author:** ![Pippers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5a626/32.png) [@Pippers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pippers)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/119 "2017-08-28T22:19:11Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Yep. Poor guy never got to live out [his dream of lynching a woman](https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/oregon-militia-members-post-apocalyptic-book-bears-striking?utm_term=.neomoNYeq#.glwQqzZDP). Those guys are crazy! That Finnican was a total nut job. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617/120 "2017-08-29T02:47:35Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Of course MOVE and Waco were instrumental in the authorities not blowing the shit out of the white armed occupiers in Malheur. That is not the issue. The issue is that the white jury gave them a pass. > > Try reading the OP, you dumb racist fuck. Try to follow the thread, retard. Posters like you are evidence that we need to reinstate literacy tests. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bundys-and-ilk-go-free-damn-them/794617.md?page=7)