# Burn girls to death in the name of Islam? Nice going, Wahhabis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 15, 2002, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524 "2002-03-15T21:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/41 "2002-03-19T23:47:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by masonite \* > Does your keyboard give you a little shock if you accidentally type out the word “Christ”? Christ no. Why? Xtian is a long established indeed ancient abbrev used by Xtians. I see no disrespect in using an old usage, your ignorance of the same not withstanding. > [@](#): > > By the way: your tone is consistenly so nasty, that I’m convinced anything you say is probably wrong. Poor baby. Perhaps one should not be quite so superficial and actually get beyond that. No loss on my part. > [@](#): > > It’s impossible to read your arguments through your seething hate. If you wish your words to be considered seriously, you might work on your style. Seething hate? That’s entertaining. Even better “If you wish your words…” That’s an immensely entertaining statement. Go fuck off dear little wilting violet now, other things are going on. > [@](#): > > But don’t bother on my account; I have skipped most of your posts for quite a while. They’re uniformly very unpleasant reading. Ta ta. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2002, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/42 "2002-03-19T23:59:42Z")
You realize, of course, that ignoring my post would have been far more withering. It was fun to get a rise out of you. I wish you were a cheesemaker, too. Really. Ta-ta yourself. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/43 "2002-03-20T00:13:27Z")
Oh, advice on being “withering” – even better. I await further advice with shivering anticipation. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/44 "2002-03-20T01:52:00Z")
**masonite** , your last post has the air of preening smugness that suggests you’re proud of your wit and superiority, and that if **Collounsbury** knew what was good for him, he should admit defeat and slink back to whence he came. Unfortunately, you’re _actually_ coming off as an airheaded doofus. I’d say you’re only a few rungs above the awe-inspiringly stupid **grienspace** , except that in reality you’re on his shoulders and the both of you are in the muck twenty feet below the bottom of the ladder. **C’bury** has thoroughly spanked both of your asses (ably assisted by **gobear** ), and your continued feeble attempts at defense just sound like whining. Give it up, goober, you lost. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/45 "2002-03-20T05:04:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > > > [@](#): > > > > Please provide a cite to back up the limited burning allegation. Even Gobear backed down on that charge of burnings. With regard to present day killing of witches, you can provide a cite for that as well. I certainly deserve to have my ignorance corrected so that I don’t spread misinformation > > A. I didn’t back down on anything. Christian Europe did burn witches. That they do not do so today does not negate that legacy. You didn’t back down? Okay, lets review. your initial allegation > [@](#): > > Do you really think that Christianity as it is practiced today has any relation to the teachings of Jesus? Do you think Jesus wanted burnings and persecutions in His name? Do you think the Prophet would recognize Islam today? Sounds like you’re saying burnings are practiced today by Christianity. but after I call you on it we have from you > [@](#): > > Christians live in secular, modern societies that no longer permit burning at the stake. Case closed, lets move on > [@](#): > > B. Witches are routinely [burned](http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_afri.htm) in southern Africa today, although this stems from traditional tribal punishments for sorcery and has no relation to the witch trials of Europe. Interesting, albeit a red herring with regards to supporting your 21st century Christian torchers of humans. These cases are not perpetrated by Christianity. > [@](#): > > If you would like an example of Christian persecution of another religion, may I refer you to the nation that gave us Martin Luther, Johann Sebastian Bach, and Adolf Hitler? Good Christian Germans slaughtered millions of men, women, and children for being born Jewish. I’ve never denied Christian atrocities of the past, but they are irrelevant to your response to my charge that you have misrepresented the character of Christianity today. I know that that the comparison of historical violence between the religions was brought up by me, but I never denied past Christian persecutions. With your reference to Christian Germans, I would suggest your grasp of the facts is somewhat lacking. It was the nazis who were responsible for the holocaust, and their cause had nothing to do with Christianity. Furthermore, the Jews were peresecuted for their ethnicity, not religion. > [@](#): > > Did you even bother to read the three diifferent incidences of Hindu persecution of Christians I posted? Yes. I concede. I did find however amusing that you relied in all three cases on Christian news sources. > [@](#): > > How about Korean Christians [vandalizing](http://www.buddhapia.com/eng/tedesco/2.html) Buddhist temples? I lived in Korea and I can personally testify to the consistent attacks by Christians against Buddhists in the past decade. Regrettable, and you bring up a worthy point. However I did not read in your cite of one case of violence upon a person. > [@](#): > > Islam need not be intolerant and hateful any more than Christianity does. The Prophet taught respect for women, tolerance for Jews and Christians, and submission to God. True, but we are still waiting. > [@](#): > > Unfortunately, the Saudi mullahs have turned their religion into a harsh straitjacket of intolerance. Islam itself is not the problem; harsh interpretations of the Qu’ran that violate the [_fiqh_](http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/glossary/term.FIQH.html) are. These false teachers are [_munafiq_](http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/glossary/term.MUNAFIQ.html) and will receive their punishment at the Day of Judgement (if you believe in that sort of thing.) Look, I never meant to imply that Islam as a religion is fundamentally a problem. But today we have violent strife at the frontiers of territory predominantly Islamic. Indonesia, Bangladesh, Chechnya, Pakistan/Kashmir, the Balkans, East Africa and Palistine/Israel. We even have much strrife and violence within. Rather than Islam, perhaps I should say the Islamic world is on trial. > [@](#): > > Of course, I am still sore that Islam condemns homosexuals to hell, but what are ya gonna do? I have the same problem with the Southern Baptists. I guess you wouldn’t be sore if you are beheaded. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/46 "2002-03-20T05:19:27Z")
**Cervaise** , what is this? Revenge of the Nerds??? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/47 "2002-03-20T06:20:46Z")
Media reports about African witch burnings typically don’t identify the perps as “Christian Terrorists”. Nonetheless… Try typing “witch death africa” into Google. Here are the first 3 sites: 1)[http://www.eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/diatribes030/diatribes605-625/diatribes617.htm](http://www.eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/diatribes030/diatribes605-625/diatribes617.htm) "In Lagos, Nigeria eight members of a religious group accused of using black magic to make a man’s penis disappear had the shit kicked out of them by an angry a mob. The mob beat them to death with sticks and then burnt their bodies just to be safe. The victims were all members of the Brotherhood of the Cross and Star the local newspaper reported. " 1. [http://www.eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/diatribes039/diatribes785-804/diatribes785.htm](http://www.eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/diatribes039/diatribes785-804/diatribes785.htm) > [@](#): > > South Africa is the only sub-Saharan country to stage a legislative inquiry into the subject. The 1995 “Report of the Commission of Inquiry into Witchcraft Violence and Ritual Murders in the Northern Province” reads like a combination of the movie “Texas Chainsaw Massacre” and the Salem witch trials of 17th-Century Massachusetts. > > The 285-page study mixes photos of dismembered bodies with reports of suspected witches being beaten to death by mobs. Legislators counted 204 witchcraft-related killings in the country’s northern provinces during the preceding decade. Police counted 312 for the same period. They agreed both numbers were gross underestimates. The religious affiliation of the perps is unclear in this case; it’s fair to say that many have an animist background. I’d have to look at the study. 1. Presbytarian Terrorists Incite Violence: Animists Urge Calm [http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/witchunt.htm](http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/witchunt.htm) > [@](#): > > The report, from the Presidential Commission into the Cult of Devil Worship, was written in 1995, but its contents had been kept secret until it was leaked to the press this month. There are now fears that its findings will trigger a wave of killings and mob attacks similar to those in Tanzania. > > Presenting lurid but unsubstantiated testimony from witnesses who described human sacrifices, blood drinking and cannibalism, the commission concluded that Freemasons, Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses were among the dozens of organisations guilty of Satanism. The report also condemned Rastafarians and loud music played by Kenya’s thousands of taxi drivers. > > Despite a failure to name individual suspects or provide convincing physical evidence to back its claims, the report has worried many ordinary Kenyans and fed the potentially dangerous rumour mill. In one secondary school in the western Nyando district this week students were sent home after threatening to riot when a newly-built pond was unveiled with a plaque showing it had been partly funded by local Freemasons. … > > However, the report’s authors are standing by their claims. “The report is a reality. Let every Kenyan understand we did not get the report from the air, but from real people,” said the Rev Bernard Muindi, a commissioner from **the Presbyterian Church of East Africa.** Emphasis added. God I love the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/48 "2002-03-20T06:38:42Z")
(I just realized that I misread the 1st quote above, initially. Oh well.) Another link: [http://www.macha.free-online.co.uk/7day-extracts/modern-witch-deaths.html](http://www.macha.free-online.co.uk/7day-extracts/modern-witch-deaths.html) Again, the religious affiliation of the perps isn’t clear, except perhaps in this one case: “April 1997 - Swami pastor and wife hacked to death by members of rival church. The victims were accused of killing the rival church’s choir master with witchcraft. Independent Newspapers” ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/49 "2002-03-20T10:52:41Z")
Dear Collounsbury, Thank you. Your posts are as informative as ever, and I seriously wonder how you manage such patience when confronted by such out and out pig-headedness. As for Grienspace, I think this is a fine example of his logic > [@](#): > > Furthermore, the Jews were peresecuted for their ethnicity, not religion. If only straw clutching was an olympic sport, you’d be a real asset to your country. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/50 "2002-03-20T14:52:10Z")
OK, **Grienspace** , let’s try this again: I wrote: > [@](#): > > Do you really think that Christianity as it is practiced today has any relation to the teachings of Jesus? Do you think Jesus wanted burnings and persecutions in His name? Do you think the Prophet would recognize Islam today? That’s the **past** tense, talkinjg about the historical injustices that have been committed in the name of Jesus. I went on to explain why we don’t burn Protestants at the stake anymore: > [@](#): > > Christians live in secular, modern societies that no longer permit burning at the stake. We have developed constitutional government and the seperation of church and state, political developments that have not yet evolved in the Middle East. We have a literate, educated populace, again an element lacking in much of the Middle East. Blame the excesses of the mullahs on illiteracy, poverty, and the failures of the political institutions in Arab states. > [@](#): > > Case closed, lets move on Case NOT closed; you just can’t read. Gobear wrote: > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > B. Witches are routinely burned in southern Africa today, although this stems from traditional tribal punishments for sorcery and has no relation to the witch trials of Europe. > > Grienspace wrote: > > Interesting, albeit a red herring with regards to supporting your 21st century Christian torchers of humans. These cases are not perpetrated by Christianity. > > > [@](#): > > > > I made no claim about 21st century witch burnings. But Christians most certainly did burn witches in the past. Christianity has done some horrible things in the name of Jesus. > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > With your reference to Christian Germans, I would suggest your grasp of the facts is somewhat lacking. It was the nazis who were responsible for the holocaust, and their cause had nothing to do with Christianity. Furthermore, the Jews were peresecuted for their ethnicity, not religion. > > > > The Nazis were most certainly Christian Germans, and although there was a significant resistance to Nazis from Catholic clergy and evangelical Protestants, there was a larger number of clergy who wholeheartedly endorsed the National Socialist ideology. The Holocaust was the end product of centuries of Christian anti-Jewish propaganda. > > > > And your last sentence is just pathetic. > > > > I won’t go over your evasions and straw clutching, but here is an outright lie. > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > Look, I never meant to imply that Islam as a religion is fundamentally a problem. > > > > But you wrote earlier > > Lets face it. Islam is on trial today. As a whole it is unhealthy, and no-one can change it but from within. which you then hairsplit to: > [@](#): > > Rather than Islam, perhaps I should say the Islamic world is on trial. Finally, > [@](#): > > I guess you wouldn’t be sore if you are beheaded. All I can say is that being headless hasn’t done **you** any favors. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/51 "2002-03-20T15:33:00Z")
**gobear** , your opening argument in the previous post is so obviously contradictory that I must question why I should continue. How you get a statement specifying “_today_” as referring to the past is beyond me. Indeed when one re-reads your first post opposing \*\* Arnold\*\* > [@](#): > > _gobear first stated_ > **I know there are nice Muslim folks, and I know that Islam in its purest form teaches harrmony and peace, but that form of Islam seems to be dead.** When I think of Islam as it is today, I think > honor killings of teenaged girls > suicide bombings in pizza joints and malls in Israel > public beheadings of homosexuals > Daniel Pearl’s death > Teaching Muslim children to hate Jews (Washington Post article) > A contract on Salman Rushdie’s head for writing a book > September 11 > Palestinians celebrating the deaths of thousands of Americans bolding mine Now after virtually claiming the more benevolent teachings of Islam appears dead and citing a litany of atrocities in the name of Islam, you now accuse me of impropriety when I say Islam is on trial and that I’m prejudiced!!! I wouldn’t have gone as far as you. But after your initial outburst, you backpeddled. What happened? Did you find out that **Collounsbury** was back in town ? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/52 "2002-03-20T16:35:13Z")
> [@](#): > > Now after virtually claiming the more benevolent teachings of Islam appears dead and citing a litany of atrocities in the name of Islam, you now accuse me of impropriety when I say Islam is on trial and that I’m prejudiced!!! I wouldn’t have gone as far as you. > > But after your initial outburst, you backpeddled. What happened? Did you find out that Collounsbury was back in town ? Unlike you, I’m not a knee-jerk reactionary; unlike **Collounsbury** , I’m not an Islamophile. I think for myself. See,. you’re going after Islam itself; I’m not. I said, and still say, that the behavior of radical Muslims and people who perform barbaric tribal practices that they falsely claim to be sanctioned by the Qu’ran has gone way off the rails, and I seriously doubt the Prophet would recognize what has been done in the name of the Most Compassionate. In the same way, I think Jesus is cool and I have no problem with His teachings, but I think His followers, for the most part, have betrayed everything Jesus stood for (protecting child-molesting priests, building cathedrals with funds meant for the poor, and so on). The Prophet honored Jews; now we have radical clerics saying that killing Jews is a deed approved by Allah. That’s messed up. But **I’m not going after Islam** , an important distinction. I’m denouncing what the radical mullahs and the back-to-the Qu’ran folks are doing; you’re denouncing Islam itself. For me, if people wish too coexist in peace and be kind to each other, I don’t care whether you bow towards Mecca, make pilgrimages to Rome, or let the _loa_ ride you. Santero, Jew, Hindu, Jain, Buddhist, Parsi, Christian, Muslim–I don’t care who you pray to as long as you play well with others and leave me the hell alone. Frankly, I think religio is the plaything of an immature species, but if it makes other people happy, who am I to object? > [@](#): > > How you get a statement specifying “today” as referring to the past is beyond me. OK, I’ll give you this one. Re-reading my original post, I see how the sentences could have been conflated. While I think that Christianity these days is still dead wrong (tell me where Jesus sanctioned building superchurches and begging for money, but letting the poor suffer. Where did Jesus say that serving God meant beign a Republican? And don’t get me started on priests diddling kids…), but no, they don’t burn heretics in Europe these days. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/53 "2002-03-20T18:38:52Z")
There may not be a whole lot of “Witch” burnings, but would the Firebombing attacks on Mosques post 9/11 count as examples of attacks on other religions in the Name of Christianity? ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2002, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/54 "2002-03-20T18:57:15Z")
UGH. No, it wouldn’t. I don’t care if someone threw the bomb and shouted, “This is for Jesus!”, it wouldn’t. Same way us some of us Christians look askance at people who gun down innocents in the name of Allah - no. That’s nice, you believe in one God, the Higher Power and all that, but your real motivations are suspect and you’re most likely psychotic, so, no. You don’t get ‘holy points’ for that crap. disclaimer: am not speaking for all members of my faith, and don’t have to. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2002, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/55 "2002-03-21T05:03:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tee \* > UGH. No, it wouldn’t. > > I don’t care if someone threw the bomb and shouted, “This is for Jesus!”, it wouldn’t. Ironically, this was the point that **Collounsbury** was making. The nutcase Saudi religious cops don’t represent the Prophet Mohammed any more than apologists for African witch-burners represent Jesus of Nazarath. Oh, and I’m not sure whether Collounsbury should be characterized as an Islamophile ( **gobear** ). Western Islamic expert, maybe. But I guess that’s a side point. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2002, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524/56 "2002-03-21T05:13:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > [ **I’m not going after Islam** , an important distinction. I’m denouncing what the radical mullahs and the back-to-the Qu’ran folks are doing; you’re denouncing Islam itself. I don’t doubt for a moment your sincerity in the above statement, nevertheless is does appear to contradict your characterization of Islam today that I quoted you on in the previous thread. Never mind. What I still take issue with is your characterization of me denouncing Islam. My statement that Islam (or the Islamic world) is on trial does not mean conviction on charges case closed. It means that the world is watching, judging, and can not be ignored. Many of us are anxiously looking for signs of opposition to terrorism and religious tyranny within Islam. We are aware of the benevolent Islam and searching for their voices on the public stage. We need to hear more than we’ve heard to date. It is very clear that when we see the atrocities you described taking place within Islam finally eliminated it won’t be a result of the actions of the USA, Christianity or any other outside entity. It won’t be eliminated by the al Qaeda leadership, present or future, or by the religious police and the radical mullahs themselves. The responsibility and hope lies with the millions of muslims who practice and believe in the benevolent Islam. Young minds need to be moulded and they need to have the voices of the extremists drowned by other voices in the name of Allah, the final authority to which everyone within Islam obeys. When I first warned Dopers about Air Canada’s banning of Salman Rushdie, I was ashamed for my country. Certainly it was pointed out that it was the government/national airline that was at fault but it also reflected on all of Canadians. Thanks to E-mail links provided by **Muffin** many dopers were able to communicate their dissatisfaction, and along with many other Canadians actually managed to get Air Canada to rescind the banning. Canadians taking responsibility for their government corrected a wrong. This is just an example of large entity taking action to correct a wrong by a faction, even though they bear no direct responsibility. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-girls-to-death-in-the-name-of-islam-nice-going-wahhabis/98524.md?page=2)