# Burn Notice is back! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 4, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711 "2009-06-04T16:29:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/81 "2009-06-19T14:13:27Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Michael will also be all over the tape at that office. He can always do his “Security Camera Repairman” schtick. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/82 "2009-06-19T18:04:53Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I don’t know…there’s at least five people that could identify him. The two security guards at the office where he stole the key (he acted drunk and certainly made an impression), the guy with the gun collection he was getting the voice access code from (getting choked with a tire iron will stick in your mind) and the two guards he locked up (in the trunk and the electrical closet) at the last location. Not to mention gunshots were fired outside that building. Michael didn’t seem as neat and tidy as he normally is. Lots of security cameras have his picture too. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/83 "2009-06-19T18:24:11Z")
This was a great episode - the best of the new season, IMO. Michael under pressure is always fun to watch. **ivylass** is right about the loose ends. In fact, over the course of the show, Michael and crew have left a trail of explosions, car accidents, shootings, kidnappings, etc. in Miami, but his never getting caught/questioned was always somewhat explain-away-able by his being “protected” by the Organization. Now that the protection has been lifted, the cops should be able to nail him with witnesses and security video as others have speculated above. But it won’t really happen. The show would not be nearly as fun if Michael had to clean up everything as well as he would have to in reality. The writers are making a head-fake in this direction with the earnest cop as Michael’s foil for the season, but it won’t last, and he’ll still get away with shit nobody normally could (which is cool, that’s what makes the show fun!) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/84 "2009-06-19T18:29:35Z")
I wonder if he will feed some bad folks to the detective or better yet, to someone above her in the police hierarchy to make Mike look good. How long can the police hold you in Florida and interrogate you without arresting you or letting you have a lawyer? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/85 "2009-06-19T18:31:42Z")
I’m wondering if lady cop is really si-ng him up for a job. Or if management sent her to pressure mike back into the fold. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/86 "2009-06-19T18:32:44Z")
I love the lady detective as his new foil. Wonder if at some point, she is going to need him? Will they eventually become good buddies? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/87 "2009-06-19T19:02:53Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I’m wondering if lady cop is really si-ng him up for a job. Or if management sent her to pressure mike back into the fold. Good point. She’s dirty. I like it. DMark is probably right, though. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/88 "2009-06-19T19:21:23Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I wonder if he will feed some bad folks to the detective or better yet, to someone above her in the police hierarchy to make Mike look good. > > How long can the police hold you in Florida and interrogate you without arresting you or letting you have a lawyer? I think that somehow she will find out about how he’s sort of a super-spy good samaritan and will probably let him go because she sees that he takes out bad guys. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/89 "2009-06-19T19:33:58Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Yeah, I love Jay Karnes. He was awesome in The Shield, Sons of Anarchy and now Burn Notice. He makes a great creepy villain. Brennen is a great character. Glad Michael’s bluff worked. I also like that we’ll see Brennen again. It presents us with a recurring supervillain for Michael. Also awesome in an episode of House. It’s like he’s taking a tour of all my favorite shows. I also thought this was the best of the season so far. I like how they’re adding more of those little information cards, like the one they used for the “Cantenna.” Best line: “No, that move only works _before_ you’re in a choke hold. Go to sleep now.” ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/90 "2009-06-19T21:14:39Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > Also awesome in an episode of House. It’s like he’s taking a tour of all my favorite shows. I missed him on House. I don’t watch that show much but since it’s trying to be the new Law and Order on TNT all the time, I will probably see it eventually. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/91 "2009-06-19T21:30:24Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > I love the lady detective as his new foil. Wonder if at some point, she is going to need him? Will they eventually become good buddies? He’s always been on good terms with his enemies. He’s willingly helped both the suits from the first season, Carla from the second, the guy that was in the bank when it was getting robbed, and his assassin. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/92 "2009-06-20T02:27:33Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > **ivylass** is right about the loose ends. In fact, over the course of the show, Michael and crew have left a trail of explosions, car accidents, shootings, kidnappings, etc. in Miami, but his never getting caught/questioned was always somewhat explain-away-able by his being “protected” by the Organization. Now that the protection has been lifted, the cops should be able to nail him with witnesses and security video as others have speculated above. Really the problem is that he’s confined to one locale. Even with the Organization protecting him, he’s still pissed off several local gangs, stealing crews, and mafia groups. That they all disappear and leave him alone without him having to form some alliances is rather improbable. I’d be worried about them more than the police. But…yeah it’s never going to happen. The producers aren’t interested in maintaining that sort of episode-to-episode linkage. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/93 "2009-06-20T03:20:34Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I’d be worried about them more than the police. But…yeah it’s never going to happen. The producers aren’t interested in maintaining that sort of episode-to-episode linkage. They’ve tried. People have gotten his name from former clients and such. Most of Mike’s work revolves around putting on a fake identity. I love for him to get a new case where the bad guy was someone he’s already conned before, so that he couldn’t act his way in. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/94 "2009-06-20T03:30:36Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > They’ve tried. People have gotten his name from former clients and such. Well the producers _are_ interested in a regular explainable source of Mission of the Weeks. Mission of the Week isn’t quite the same thing as Villain of the Week. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/95 "2009-07-10T10:23:00Z")
It doesn’t strike me as being particularly believable that an ex-IRA operative would harp about someone being patriotic. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/96 "2009-07-10T11:47:33Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > It doesn’t strike me as being particularly believable that an ex-IRA operative would harp about someone being patriotic. It wasn’t Michael’s patriotism, it was his allegiance to a country that could have their intelligence community infiltrated by The Organization and was consequently manipulated to burn him. He’s been mistreated by a dumb group, but he’s still loyal. That chaps her. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/97 "2009-07-10T12:36:19Z")
I thought she would much rather have a life with him bounty hunting and doing Robin Hood stuff than waiting for him to come back from Bosnia. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/98 "2009-07-10T12:49:46Z")
Did anyone else notice that the mathematician was played by [Michael Weston](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0922995/)? That was really confusing- I couldn’t figure out why they put the main character’s name in the credits. ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/99 "2009-07-10T12:57:20Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Did anyone else notice that the mathematician was played by [Michael Weston](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0922995/)? That was really confusing- I couldn’t figure out why they put the main character’s name in the credits. Hey, that’s the PI from “House”! I knew I recognized him from somewhere. BTW, Michael’s last name is spelled “Westen”. But it’s an interesting coincidence anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711/100 "2009-07-12T23:45:20Z")
Ok, I’m confused by the overall plot. Mike was burned not by the organization he works for, but by another organization? So why can’t he get back with his original folks if the burn notice is lifted at the end of Season 2? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-is-back/498711.md?page=6)