# Burn Notice season finale March 5! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 6, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464 "2009-03-06T00:42:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/21 "2009-03-06T19:39:40Z")
Dammit, I liked Victor. I wanted to see him become a regular cast member. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/22 "2009-03-06T19:55:13Z")
Second best episode ever. The problem is that the best episode ever (Arye Gross as his “accountant”) put me on permanent “nothing is as it seems” alert…and then the client is really the client in just about every episode since then. Still…great episode. ---
**Author:** ![doublehelix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@doublehelix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doublehelix)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/23 "2009-03-06T20:39:57Z")
Michael has killed a bunch of people. He clearly killed the guys in the batroom, and he shot the evil accountant in his kitchen. But this is the first time it was personal. I was shocked. But then again, the fact that it can shock me is probably the reason this is my favorite show. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/24 "2009-03-06T21:40:17Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Dammit, I liked Victor. I wanted to see him become a regular cast member. Me, too. I’m wondering if it is more reason to make “Mangement” as evil and need killin’. Wiping out Victor’s family seemed a little over the top. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/25 "2009-03-07T02:31:37Z")
I need to watch some of the season one shows. And as a Florida resident, I need to point out some errors. Miami is not three hours away from Orlando…it’s more like six. One does not take a “day trip” to Orlando from Miami. But hiding out in Disney World was an excellent idea…and nice ride for Maddy, huh? But where the hell are the neighbors? If I saw a bunch of plainclothed men sneaking up across the street with guns I’d be calling the police. Same with the shootout at the parking garage…where the hell is the Miami-Dade Police? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/26 "2009-03-07T02:57:10Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > where the hell is the Miami-Dade Police? Obviously there is some poetic license involved here. Blowing up cars, toting shotguns around and discharging weapons in public would certainly attract a certain amount of attention by the gendarmes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/27 "2009-03-07T03:06:08Z")
In the past, Carla’s organization has shown some amount of control of the police (as when she had them arrest Michael’s brother). So perhaps her organization stopped incoming 911 calls? Yeah, okay, not likely. But it’s the only thing I could think of. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/28 "2009-03-07T03:10:35Z")
> [@David\_B](#): > > In the past, Carla’s organization has shown some amount of control of the police Perhaps so; good point, but it is surely no longer, “Carla’s organization.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/29 "2009-03-07T03:47:27Z")
True – but it _was_ when they were running around with guns outside of Michael’s mom’s house. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/30 "2009-03-07T04:12:08Z")
> [@David\_B](#): > > True – but it _was_ when they were running around with guns outside of Michael’s mom’s house. My initial thought was to post, “I stand corrected”, but I think she was a minor bureaucrat under “Management.” Perhaps she did control the attack on the house and the manipulation of the police. I might stand corrected. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/31 "2009-03-07T11:47:20Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > My initial thought was to post, “I stand corrected”, but I think she was a minor bureaucrat under “Management.” > > Perhaps she did control the attack on the house and the manipulation of the police. > I might stand corrected. 🙂 Please, feel free to sit down! 😃 I look at it this way – at my work, I’m a manager with about a dozen people under me and several levels of management over me. I could tell “my unit” to do something, and they would do it. But I could also be overruled or even replaced (hopefully not killed!) by those above me. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/32 "2009-03-07T14:06:40Z")
I’m still a bit confused. The Organization wanted to recruit Victor and Michael. They put out the burn notice on them, and to “sweeten the pot” as it were for Victor, Carla had his family killed (bitch, by the way.) So, if Carla wanted Michael to join The Organization, why didn’t she kill Maddy? Did she just not get the opportunity? And was Victor trying to kill Michael to spoil Carla’s plans to recruit Michael? I also fear that Michael will regret turning down The Organization’s offer for continued protection, unless they decide on their own that he’s too valuable an asset and keep protecting him anyway. I do like the tidbits of trivia…if I’m ever involved in a gun fight while I’m driving, I’ll be sure to ricochet the bullets off the road and up into the chasing car’s undercarriage. Good tip. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/33 "2009-03-07T15:17:19Z")
Ivylass - yes, the Organization recruits recently blacklisted spies… In victor’s case, Carla’s people also killed his family to make him more eager to join “anything” spy related. In Micheal’s case, it appears that they realized just how good Micheal is, and didn’t want to turn him into an enemy, so they dangled the getting “un burned” in front of him to get the different job’s done. They probably thought that killing Maddie would make him a very dangerous enemy. I have no problem thinking that Managment knows enough about the spies they are trying to recruit to know what buttons to push to get them turned… I think hat Michael turning down the Organization sets up next season’s story lines - Michaels past comes back to haunt him - which I like compared to the “what job to do next that I dont want to do” stories - keeps it mixed up. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/34 "2009-03-07T15:47:04Z")
Another thing to remember is that Michael essentially hadn’t spoken to his mother in years, so it wasn’t like she was holding him back from doing spy work. With Victor, however, his family could have held him back, so they had to be disposed of. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/35 "2009-03-07T17:51:19Z")
Plus, Michael is a really good spy. They know that he would have figured out that they killed his Mom. Things would have been a lot less pleasant for them ---
**Author:** ![infinitii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@infinitii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/infinitii)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/36 "2009-03-07T18:24:18Z")
Has anyone mentioned the shades at the end of the episode? The camera focused on him putting them down in the helicopter and then showing that he left them in there when he jumped out-- I figured it was going to be a bomb, but I guess it will be some sort of tracker or something maybe, which will help out for next season? That’s my guess anyway. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/37 "2009-03-07T19:20:11Z")
I would guess you’re correct. I expected Frazier’s dad to throw them out of the helicopter after Michael. But when he didn’t, I’ve got to think something is up – like a tracker, as you said. ---
**Author:** ![gardentraveler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gardentraveler/32/3576_2.png) [@gardentraveler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gardentraveler)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/38 "2009-03-07T20:07:20Z")
I thought about the lack of police, too, for a few moments. Especially when the troops with major weapons invaded. But I find that it’s much more entertaining if you just suspend disbelief. Really great episode, though. June is way too far away. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/39 "2009-03-07T23:53:34Z")
> [@infinitii](#): > > Has anyone mentioned the shades at the end of the episode? Didn’t he take them from one of the guys in the pilot? I thought it was symbolic to leave them; a stage in his search is over. Besides, they are crummy looking shades. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464/40 "2009-03-08T07:08:37Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > June? No new Burn Notice till June!? That is far too long. > > Michael is an incredible swimmer judging by where they dropped him off. This is the kind of thing that pisses me off when a show runs long and my VCR cuts off the end. (I have now seen it online, but) Holy Crap! He jumped out of the frakking helicopter?!?! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burn-notice-season-finale-march-5/488464.md?page=3)