# Burning books in the US...'Burn Quran Day' **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 20, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891 "2010-08-20T17:58:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Don123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Don123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don123)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/481 "2010-09-03T06:06:39Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > > [@Don123](#): > > > > We do not like the Koran and we do not like Islam, and we have a say about it. After we have our say we will go home and post on Great Debates and try not to get banned. > > So, how many of you are posting from that computer, anyway? Me, myself, and I—seeing I don’t believe in any gods.—ha ha. Give me a little literary slack here and you will get a reward in heaven. (Stop it Don) Don ---
**Author:** ![Don123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Don123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don123)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/482 "2010-09-03T06:33:32Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > > [@Uzi](#): > > > > What context? It is a bunch of nonsense for the most part and the other half is about those that don’t believe are going to burn and how Allah is merciful because of it. Which is why guys like Osama can easily interpret it any way they like to. > > You have really stopped making any sense, so I’ll probably have to stop responding to you. > > Your posts are a really silly mish-mash of attacks on the Qur’an for being wrong or foolish while insisting that you can reasonably be expected to interpret what it means and tell its followers what they are supposed to believe even though you deny that the work is in any way coherent, to begin with. > > I will make one more attempt, although the information has already been posted in this thread more than once and you have ignored it. > > The “violent” passages that you have quoted were written at the particuar time when the nascent Muslim community was under specific attack by the pagans of a particular city. They were direct instructions on the way to defend themselves from a particular group at a particular time. They were not general instructions ordering the murder of every non-Muslim they ever encountered for the rest of history. > It really does not matter whether the words in the verses were proclaimed by (a) God or dreamed up by Mohammed, himself. The point was that they were recorded as the exhortations before particular battles and they were kept in the Qur’an because the Muslim community won those battles. > > So it is irrelvant whether they are the words of God or the words of Mohammed; they simply point back to a time when Muslims were in danger of being annihilated and provide inspiration for future Muslims to defend themselves if they are attacked. I can agree in a small part of what you wrote, but what you do not understand is the Islamic way of interpreting the Koran handed down from their highest Mullahs. What you leave out is the common Islamic reasoning of abrogation i.e. the older verses in the Koran, that resemble some form of peace, are supplanted with the newer ones that are hate and destroy. Accordingly most all the verses that came early in Mohammad’s career of caravan raiding have much less value than the older ones when he went on war campaigns. As far as Mohammad writing something, that is doubtful as he told Gabriel he did not know how to read and write. And the Koran was not complied until about 175 years after his death. And even still the book is a mess as it is organized by chapter length and not by flowing context as in a story. So I have no fear of putting a match to it. Don ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/483 "2010-09-03T07:27:03Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > > [@tomndebb](#): > > > > Suharto persecuted Muslims. > > > > Some of the Muslims Suharto persecuted formed a group to oppose him and were willing to carry out terrorist acts in to make their points. > > Suharto was out of office for 4 years prior to the Bali bombing. There is no logic to the idea that they were opposing him. It wasn’t targeted at the government. It was targeted at symbols of Western cultural which corresponds to the messages handed down by Imams through mosques and schools. The driving force for the target was religion. I did not say they were opposing him at the time of the bombing. You claim that there is nothing but religion behind the various terrorist groups. I noted that every one of the groups formed in response to oppression or societal chaos. Once a group has formed, it operates on its own logic that is not bound by mere facts. (Sort of like the way that demagogues can whip up fury at a Sufi community center under the pretense that it is connected in some imaginary way with the actions of Wahhabist terrorists nine years earlier.) It is absolutely true that the Bali bombers were attacking Western cultural symbols–I said as much, myself–but the movement that encouraged the hatred that acted out in that way was not merely a group of religious people thinking bad thoughts, it was a specific movement that had arisen in a time of persecution and then continued its self-anointed “mission” after conditions had begun to change. If the sole cause of the attacks is simply the religion of Islam, where are the same attacks in the 1980s, 1970s, 1960s, 1950s, etc.? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/484 "2010-09-03T10:02:03Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > What you leave out is the common Islamic reasoning of abrogation i.e. the older verses in the Koran, that resemble some form of peace, are supplanted with the newer ones that are hate and destroy. Accordingly most all the verses that came early in Mohammad’s career of caravan raiding have much less value than the older ones when he went on war campaigns. Posting half-truths does not help your case. [Here](http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Farooq_Ibrahim/abrogation.htm) is a real description of the doctrine of abrogation. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/485 "2010-09-03T10:26:00Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > > [@Don123](#): > > > > NOW can I burn the Koran as it is proved that Islam is nothing but a pack of lie. > > Go ahead. What do you think it is, their Soul Object and burning it will make Muslims everywhere fall down and turn to dust? Wait, so all Muslims are liches? Okay, now I’m scared. ---
**Author:** ![bbart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@bbart4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbart4)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/486 "2010-09-03T11:50:18Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > > [@tomndebb](#): > > > > Suharto persecuted Muslims. > > > > Some of the Muslims Suharto persecuted formed a group to oppose him and were willing to carry out terrorist acts in to make their points. > > Suharto was out of office for 4 years prior to the Bali bombing. There is no logic to the idea that they were opposing him. It wasn’t targeted at the government. It was targeted at symbols of Western cultural which corresponds to the messages handed down by Imams through mosques and schools. The driving force for the target was religion. Ba’asyir, the head of JI, was on exile during Suharto’s regime. Suharto practically chased all radical muslims out of the country (and even some more moderate ones also). Ba’asyir came back after Suharto’s fall. JI reformed as Indonesia went democratic. They strengthened after 9/11 with Al-Qaida support. Now they are on the run again, with Ba’asyir trying to distance himself from key JI terrorist suspects. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/487 "2010-09-03T12:17:18Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > So it is irrelvant whether they are the words of God or the words of Mohammed; they simply point back to a time when Muslims were in danger of being annihilated and provide inspiration for future Muslims to defend themselves if they are attacked. I see, and you think the average Muslim, some of the poorest and least educated people on the planet, are able to interpret this based upon what you have said here? So, how do they interpret what the Koran actually says rather than what tomndebb wishes it to say: Seeing that he isn’t there to give the ‘correct’ interpretation? Isn’t that what the [Hadiths](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith) are all about? [Forced Conversions](http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/013-forced-conversion.htm) [On violence](http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm) ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/488 "2010-09-03T14:48:30Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > I have not found any documentation of any Muslims being killed in 9/11 other than the terrorist. Perhaps you would like to supply it? I have heard about Muslims being killed in the buildings and each year the numbers get larger and larger—funny how the dead can multiply. How does that happen? > [@Don123](#): > > You are wasting my time. Those are only pictures of people that may have a Arab linage— that does not prove they were Muslims! I have news for YOU, Islam is NOT a race! It is a set of ideas that people believe in. > > \ > > And YOU are here justifying the greatest terrorist cult on earth and that is Islam. How do you sleep at night? Alternatively, you could just Google “list of muslims killed on 9/11” and go to the [very first result, which has a list](http://islam.about.com/blvictims.htm). I mean, I know you’re not going to accept it anyway, but it’s worth pointing out that this stuff isn’t exactly a secret. Anyway, how do you think it’s even _plausible_ to kill almost three thousand New Yorkers and not have any of them be Muslims? Also, whether you like Islam or not, and whether you think it’s a terrorist organization or not, it’s certainly not a cult. The religion isn’t all that insular (at least, not in its emigrant populations), its leadership doesn’t believe differently from the masses, it no longer has a powerful, charismatic leader,… ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/489 "2010-09-03T15:20:28Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > > > Go ahead. What do you think it is, their Soul Object and burning it will make Muslims everywhere fall down and turn to dust? > > I do not know what Voodoo believing Muslims are going to do, when the Korans go up in flames. Maybe they will throw themselves into the fire to put it out. So we had better get the fire department to stand by, with doctors, and attorneys, have cameras running so Muslims will not say we spit on them when we did not (as spitting at some one is a tort and that is forbidden). > > Maybe we should get the cops out in riot gear to protect our rights of free speech. > > We do not like the Koran and we do not like Islam, and we have a say about it. After we have our say we will go home and post on Great Debates and try not to get banned. > > Don I think its very clear what will happen. Most Muslims will shake their head at the stupid church and go on with their lives. Those in the US might feel a little more persecuted and fearful over the anti-Muslim bigotry that continues in the US. A relatively small number who were on the fence about whether to be radical or not might decide that this is enough proof that the US is waging a holy war and so tip over the the radical branch slightly increasing the chance of more attacks. A bunch of bigots in the US get to feel self righteously smug. None of these seems to be a very good thing. I have an idea lets get together a bunch of late term aborted fetuses and laugh while we feed them to dogs in front the a baptist church while wearing the skulls of dead babies on our heads. Since the children are already dead we aren’t doing any real harm and are just exercising our free speech rights which is surely a good thing. If the Christians get offended its their own fault. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/490 "2010-09-03T15:29:15Z")
“Voodoo believing Muslims”? Voodoo incorporates Catholic elements into West African belief systems; it has more to do with Christianity than with Islam. > [@Kobal2](#): > > I mean, you can’t really blame me for going over the most basic of facts with you at this point. I think the first step would be to get **Don** to admit that Muslims are humans. ---
**Author:** ![Don123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Don123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don123)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/491 "2010-09-03T15:56:39Z")
> [@straight\_man](#): > > > [@Don123](#): > > > > I have not found any documentation of any Muslims being killed in 9/11 other than the terrorist. Perhaps you would like to supply it? I have heard about Muslims being killed in the buildings and each year the numbers get larger and larger—funny how the dead can multiply. How does that happen? > > > [@Don123](#): > > > > You are wasting my time. Those are only pictures of people that may have a Arab linage— that does not prove they were Muslims! I have news for YOU, Islam is NOT a race! It is a set of ideas that people believe in. > > > > \ > > > > And YOU are here justifying the greatest terrorist cult on earth and that is Islam. How do you sleep at night? > > Alternatively, you could just Google “list of muslims killed on 9/11” and go to the [very first result, which has a list](http://islam.about.com/blvictims.htm). I mean, I know you’re not going to accept it anyway, but it’s worth pointing out that this stuff isn’t exactly a secret. Anyway, how do you think it’s even _plausible_ to kill almost three thousand New Yorkers and not have any of them be Muslims? > > Also, whether you like Islam or not, and whether you think it’s a terrorist organization or not, it’s certainly not a cult. The religion isn’t all that insular (at least, not in its emigrant populations), its leadership doesn’t believe differently from the masses, it no longer has a powerful, charismatic leader,… I went to your site and made a note of it. I will grant you that there may have been some Muslims killed in the 9/11 attack other than the terrorist. By the reason of the numbers killed, more than likely that is the case. To say how many or whom, it is not known and I do not see how any one can make the claim other wise. My point is these dead innocent Muslims are being used for propaganda purposes, even more so as the mosque at ground zero is trying to be built against great protest. I find that trickery that Muslims use all the time trying to justify what cannot be justified. Muslims are known to hold up their dead as martyrs to advance the spread of Islam, and I simply do not buy into it. And may I add all the more reason to hate that filthy religion, as Muslim terrorist do not even respect the lives of their own kind, and you do not know who will be the next Muslim terrorist as that is what the religion genders by the groves daily. When Islamic leaders say they have no shortage of suicide bombers, I believe them. I admit it is a real problem and some what of a dilemma. I absolutely oppose dragging Muslims out of their homes at random in vigilante or mob rule and confine or shooting them. That is enough for me to take up arms in protection of the innocent. On the other hand it is dangerous to allow a suicidal religion, as Islam is proved to be, to take root in your neighborhood. I am left with education to the Muslims, social pressures, open to the public debates, perhaps even logic and reason to persuade them away from their cult into anything they desire as a faith, or no faith at all, just not Islam. To have a public Koran burning party would send a message to Muslims of the great dislike to their killing cult, that we are not going to be pushed around by their threats of terrorism that is the dominate feature of Islam. And I do not care how many Islamic martyrs they hang on the wall. Don ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/492 "2010-09-03T16:13:39Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > To have a public Koran burning party would send a message to Muslims of the great dislike to their killing cult, that we are not going to be pushed around by their threats of terrorism that is the dominate feature of Islam. If this was widely practiced in America, what do you think the response by Muslims would be? ---
**Author:** ![Don123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Don123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don123)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/493 "2010-09-03T16:26:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > “Voodoo believing Muslims”? Voodoo incorporates Catholic elements into West African belief systems; it has more to do with Christianity than with Islam. > > > [@Kobal2](#): > > > > I mean, you can’t really blame me for going over the most basic of facts with you at this point. > > I think the first step would be to get **Don** to admit that Muslims are humans. By medical definitions Charles Manson ( a renown serial killer) is human also, but mentally he is worse than an animal. Accordingly he is locked up for life. Voodoo Catholics—yep I stand by it. The difference being they have been defeated long ago and forced into being civil. And when they step out of line as in Ireland, the free world should raise up and put an end to it as fast as possible. This stupid idea that a darkage belief in a god of some kind gives a person the right to go killing and intimidating the neighborhood is going to come to an end by the force and rule of laws and punishments. Don ---
**Author:** ![bbart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@bbart4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbart4)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/494 "2010-09-03T16:28:47Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > When Islamic leaders say they have no shortage of suicide bombers, I believe them. What makes you believe them? Give me an estimate on what % of muslim pop. is capable of becoming such bombers? > [@](#): > > On the other hand it is dangerous to allow a suicidal religion, as Islam is proved to be, to take root in your neighborhood. I am left with education to the Muslims, social pressures, open to the public debates, perhaps even logic and reason to persuade them away from their cult into anything they desire as a faith, or no faith at all, just not Islam. What sort of education are you proposing? > [@](#): > > To have a public Koran burning party would send a message to Muslims of the great dislike to their killing cult, that we are not going to be pushed around by their threats of terrorism that is the dominate feature of Islam. And I do not care how many Islamic martyrs they hang on the wall. > > Don Without the burning, increasing numbers of them have already suspected that everyone else is at war with them. This would just merely confirm their sentiments. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/495 "2010-09-03T16:37:14Z")
Reading **Don’s** posts is like reading a Chick tract. **Evil Muslim 1** : HAW HAW HAW! Ahmed, our plan to infiltrate America and impose Sharia law is going forward as planned! **Evil Muslim 2** : Yes, Omar! We have already gained permission to build a mosque directly on the hallowed land of Ground Zero and not in any way two blocks away in a disused Burlington Coat Factory, and have convinced many Americans that we are a peace-loving people! Soon all America will fall under the sword of Allah! **Fictional Don** : Halt, terrorist scum! We American are not going to be pushed around by the threats of terrorism that is the dominate feature of Islam! I do not care how many Islamic martyrs you hang on the wall! **Evil Muslim 1** : Filthy infidel! You cannot stop us! All billion or so of us worldwide are committed to the cause of violent jihad! **Fictional Don** : Oh no? Let’s see how you feel after I set fire to THIS KORAN! **Evil Muslim 2** : By the beard of the Prophet Peace be unto Him and death to everyone else! He has set our holy book alight, and yet Allah has not struck him down! **Evil Muslim 1** : How can this be? Could we have been so mistaken in our ways? **Evil Muslim 2** : It must be so! Perhaps we should fall to our knees and pray to Jesus Christ for forgiveness of our sins, lest the Lord cast us into the fiery pit for all eternity! That about how you see this book burning happening, **Don**? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/496 "2010-09-03T16:45:30Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Reading **Don’s** posts is like reading a Chick tract. […] Pssst, you forgot how new Chick converts can immediately quote chapter and verse. Otherwise, spot on 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/497 "2010-09-03T16:50:34Z")
> [@bbart4](#): > > What makes you believe them? Give me an estimate on what % of muslim pop. is capable of becoming such bombers? As a % of muslims, it is probably greater than a % of people in other major religions. Their book condones and reveres it. Why is it surprising that someone who reads the book interprets it that way and would act upon it? ---
**Author:** ![bbart4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@bbart4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbart4)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/498 "2010-09-03T17:00:48Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > > [@bbart4](#): > > > > What makes you believe them? Give me an estimate on what % of muslim pop. is capable of becoming such bombers? > > As a % of muslims, it is probably greater than a % of people in other major religions. Their book condones and reveres it. Why is it surprising that someone who reads the book interprets it that way and would act upon it? Because the data isn’t convincing. People read so many things, yet most of them are rational enough to try to live peacefully with others. Do you think most muslims have rational enough minds? So when muslims do it, it is because their book condones and reveres it. If non muslims do it, it’s got nothing to do with their religion? ---
**Author:** ![qpw3141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/6bbea6/32.png) [@qpw3141](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/qpw3141)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/499 "2010-09-03T17:04:27Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > > [@bbart4](#): > > > > What makes you believe them? Give me an estimate on what % of muslim pop. is capable of becoming such bombers? > > As a % of muslims, it is probably greater than a % of people in other major religions. Their book condones and reveres it. Why is it surprising that someone who reads the book interprets it that way and would act upon it? So mad people read books and get kookie ideas about them. Rather like mad people listen to Beatles songs and get kookie ideas from them. Let’s destroy: All the Muslims because of 9-11. All the Christians because of the crusades. All the Hindi’s because of the killing at partition. All the aetheists because why should those godless bastards survive. That’ll just leave the Buddhists and a few other minor religions until someone does some Don style research and fingers them. (Well, probably not the Jains, actually.) ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891/500 "2010-09-03T17:12:18Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > **Evil Muslim 2** : It must be so! Perhaps we should fall to our knees and pray to Jesus Christ for forgiveness of our sins, lest the Lord cast us into the fiery pit for all eternity! > That about how you see this book burning happening, **Don**? Not to be cranky, but I think **Don** is atheist. (He’s not exactly been complimentary toward Christians in this thread, anyway.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/burning-books-in-the-us-burn-quran-day/550891.md?page=26)