# Bus Crash Of Junior Hockey Players in Saskatchewan - Fatalities Confirmed \[in 2018\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 7, 2018, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965 "2018-04-07T05:41:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/61 "2018-04-08T15:56:39Z")
I wouldn’t read so much into the parents deferring updates to the point that it’s a general difference between Canadians and Americans. Remember, these are hockey parents, whose kids are all on the same team. They will know the other boys, from years of being in the system and watching their sons play together on the same teams, or opposite teams, and now all living together and bonding in a small town in Saskatchewan, while all on the same team. They’ll know the other boys who were in the crash and are also being treated, and will want them to get good care too. These aren’t unrelated families whose relatives just happened to be on the same bus together, which is the typical situation after a bus accident. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/62 "2018-04-08T16:31:09Z")
It’s a terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to all of those affected. So sad. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/63 "2018-04-08T17:35:16Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I wouldn’t read so much into the parents deferring updates to the point that it’s a general difference between Canadians and Americans. > > Remember, these are hockey parents, whose kids are all on the same team. They will know the other boys, from years of being in the system and watching their sons play together on the same teams, or opposite teams, and now all living together and bonding in a small town in Saskatchewan, while all on the same team. > > They’ll know the other boys who were in the crash and are also being treated, and will want them to get good care too. > > These aren’t unrelated families whose relatives just happened to be on the same bus together, which is the typical situation after a bus accident. That’s a very good point. And perhaps an additional factor is the prairie culture, which is a lot different than that in the busy population corridors of east-central Canada, especially in the big cities. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/64 "2018-04-08T17:49:51Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > I’m not too sure about the relative mass of the two vehicles when the truck had a fairly light payload, but it looks like the wreckage is more W than N of the junction. In the pics here, the cab of the truck lies on 335 westbound: > [Video: Aerial view of Saskatchewan bus tragedy - The Globe and Mail](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/video-aerial-view-of-saskatchewan-bus-tragedy/) A tractor-trailer of that size could be heavier than a bus even if the trailer was empty. A big rig like that is probably coming in at about 25 tons tare weight; a bus would push 20 tons in really dressed up models. I know the bus LOOKS as big but it’s a lot of empty space inside. Even a light load will easily add 5-10 tons to the truck’s weight, and I am guessing low. The rig has five trailer axles, and it would absolutely not have that many axles unless it needed it. I’d guess the gross weight was 30-35 tons, easy. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/65 "2018-04-08T21:55:41Z")
A player has been released from hospital! Broncos organization will give updates on status, but without names. The Prime Minister and the Premier will attend the vigil tonight. [1st Humboldt Broncos team player released from hospital.](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/humboldt-bands-together-following-tragedy-1.4610261) ---
**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/66 "2018-04-08T23:10:13Z")
That’s a great piece of news that a player’s being released from the hospital. Besides the 14 or 15 that I read we’re in critical condition, has there been any report on the extent of any other injuries? I know the truck driver survived was he hurt at all? I read he had been questioned but I don’t know if he’s been hospitalized. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/67 "2018-04-09T00:57:16Z")
No, he doesn’t appear to have been injured. He was released after questioning and apparently referred to counselling for the trauma. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/68 "2018-04-09T01:10:06Z")
Vigil in the Humboldt Rink now starting. The PM, the Premier and Minister Goodale are present, but will not be speaking. Rink is full, so there are overflows in the curling rink and the school. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/69 "2018-04-09T01:13:55Z")
Mayor is speaking. He’s obviously exhausted and strained but doing a good job. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/70 "2018-04-09T01:23:53Z")
President of the Broncos is speaking. Reading out the names of the injured. Now starting the dead. He’s having trouble getting through them. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/71 "2018-04-09T01:38:04Z")
Former FSIN Chief Lawrence Joseph praying in Cree. Encourages people to cry at any time without embarrassment; shortest verse in the Bible is “Jesus wept.” at the death of a friend. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/72 "2018-04-09T01:39:14Z")
Now the Bishop of the Catholic Ukrainian Eparchy of Saskatoon reading the 23 Psalm. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/73 "2018-04-09T01:41:10Z")
Now the Chaplin of the team is sharing his memories of coming on the crash on the way to the game, then “holding the hand of a lifeless body” in the hospital. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/74 "2018-04-09T01:44:33Z")
> [@Patx2](#): > > That’s a great piece of news that a player’s being released from the hospital. Besides the 14 or 15 that I read we’re in critical condition, has there been any report on the extent of any other injuries? I know the truck driver survived was he hurt at all? I read he had been questioned but I don’t know if he’s been hospitalized. I have heard that one “surviving” player was being evaluated for organ donation, and another appears to be paralyzed from the waist down, although it’s unknown if this will be permanent. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/75 "2018-04-09T01:48:31Z")
An angry yet hopeful Pastor. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/76 "2018-04-09T01:53:49Z")
I’ve been reading the updates all day. Thank you, Northern Piper, for keeping us posted. My prayers are with all of the families, and everyone involved in responding to the crash. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/77 "2018-04-09T02:01:54Z")
Aruba Quaye of the Living Grace Church about to lead the vigil in Amazing Grace, as a prayer seeking God’s grace; reminiscing about Tyler Bieber, the lost play-by-play man. Running the photos of all those lost young men. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/78 "2018-04-09T02:03:49Z")
Chris Chelios played for them. He was my friend in College at Wisconsin. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/79 "2018-04-09T02:08:27Z")
Now the Lutheran pastor leading the Prayers of the People. Almost lost it praying for the First Responders and the “horrors they saw.” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965/80 "2018-04-09T02:16:19Z")
Final prayer from the United Church minister. The Anglican priest who’s acting as Master of Ceremonies, Matteo Carboni (not a traditional Anglican name 😉 ) is closing with “What a Friend We Have in Jesus.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-crash-of-junior-hockey-players-in-saskatchewan-fatalities-confirmed-in-2018/811965.md?page=5)