# Bus robber taken down by his victims.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 20, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789 "2013-12-20T02:20:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/1 "2013-12-20T02:20:51Z")

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I can’t believe how brazen this guy is. Watch the video. He’s just walking down the aisle pointing the gun at people and taking their phones. Just another day at the crime office for this robber. He must have taken 4 phones before one victim jumped his ass. Nobody else on that bus even knew anything was going on until the fight broke out.

You don’t have to be alone on a dark street to get mugged. They’re doing it right out in the open now. :rolleyes: Being in a crowd doesn’t offer any protection.

> **[Surveillance video shows armed robber tackled by passengers aboard...](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/video-shows-armed-robber-tackled-passengers-seattle-bus-article-1.1552819)**
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> A brave group of straphangers took down an armed robber after he pointed his gun at a victim’s head on a Seattle bus, newly released surveillance footage shows.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/2 "2013-12-20T02:28:03Z")

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Wow. What a world. They have little signs up on the buses and light rail that caution you being careful with your small electronics. I always though of someone just snatching it and running off of the train (as had happened before), and that they meant keep it down low and close to your body so a potential robber couldn’t do that. This scenario would have never occurred to me.

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**Author:** ![all\_timestamps\_displayed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@all\_timestamps\_displayed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/all_timestamps_displayed)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/3 "2013-12-20T02:30:42Z")

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The guy who went after him is 100% hidden badass, he even puts his phone in his pocket while grabbing the gun… props!

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/4 "2013-12-20T02:31:54Z")

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This link has the unedited surveillance video. It’s unsettling how he just walks down the aisle with a gun collecting phones.

> **[Moment bus riders subdue armed robber caught on video](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2526456/The-incredible-moment-bus-riders-grab-robbers-gun-hold-police.html)**
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> Newly released surveillance video from a Seattle bus on November 25 shows a bespectacled young man reacting with lightning reflexes and fury.

Supposedly the victim put his finger in the trigger guard. But I cant tell on the video.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/5 "2013-12-20T04:00:02Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Just another day at the crime office for this robber.

I’m laughing and crying simultaneously at how appropriate this phrase is.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/6 "2013-12-20T04:08:57Z")

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This was on NWCN this morning. It gave us a good laugh.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/7 "2013-12-20T12:57:53Z")

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Move over Epic Beard Man, for Epic Horn-Rims Man

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/8 "2013-12-20T15:40:46Z")

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The link says the robber pleaded not guilty. How is that even an option when the whole thing is on video? Which lawyer advised him?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/9 "2013-12-20T18:49:22Z")

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> [@all\_timestamps\_displayed](#):
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> The guy who went after him is 100% hidden badass, he even puts his phone in his pocket while grabbing the gun… props!

Concur - it looks as though he turns the robber’s wrist so as to force him to point the gun toward himself. When that happens in the movies, it’s because the hero has special training of some sort.

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/10 "2013-12-20T19:52:40Z")

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> [@Colophon](#):
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> The link says the robber pleaded not guilty. How is that even an option when the whole thing is on video? Which lawyer advised him?

“Not guilty” doesn’t mean “innocent.” There are, theoretically at least, ways he could not be convicted–the video is excluded from evidence or plain jury nullification, for example. Most likely, though, he’s just going to do a plea deal. An initial ‘not guilty’ is the first step for that.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/11 "2013-12-20T20:20:08Z")

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> [@LawMonkey](#):
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> “Not guilty” doesn’t mean “innocent.” There are, theoretically at least, ways he could not be convicted

It’s a fair cop, but society’s to blame.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/12 "2013-12-20T21:19:01Z")

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> [@LawMonkey](#):
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> “Not guilty” doesn’t mean “innocent.” There are, theoretically at least, ways he could not be convicted–the video is excluded from evidence or plain jury nullification, for example.

What might he do about the two dozen eyewitnesses?

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bus-robber-taken-down-by-his-victims/676789/13 "2013-12-21T05:03:28Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> What might he do about the two dozen eyewitnesses?

He does have a gun.
