# Bush and Romney not backing Trump

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 7, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199 "2020-06-07T12:37:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/21 "2020-06-07T19:32:40Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Really wonder if Romney runs for president again in 2024. He will be 77 , same age as Biden now.

I’ve seen a few Republicans saying that everything would be great now if only Jed Bush had been elected in 2016 like he was supposed to be. (Which I feel is ignoring the fact that the problems with the Republican Party aren’t limited to just Donald Trump.) It wouldn’t surprise me to see Bush run again in 2024 if Trump loses this year.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/22 "2020-06-07T19:44:45Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> In the Powell interview, it seemed to me he was most emotional when he mentioned how Trump started his serious presidential run with birtherism; and, how he (Powell) is the son of immigrants.
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> **Not important. Just for the record.** 🙂

I fully understand and agree with the context about what you wrote that I bolded, but I just have to say… I completely get why Powell remains so emotional over the birtherism shit.

Nothing – _nothing!_ – disturbed me more about Trump’s appearance on the scene in 2015 than his casual willingness to deploy naked racism through a false narrative to smear Obama about his place of birth, something so easily shown to be a lie. Worse was the indifference to the easily-discovered truth with which this lie was received by a substantial number of our citizens – and Republicans in Congress. How many accept it still.

To this day, it roils my guts.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Trump is not a Republican.  
> Never was.  
> His followers don’t care.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Trump is a registered member of the Republican Party. He entered primaries and ran as a Republican candidate. He was nominated by the Republican Party. He was elected as a Republican.
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> I can see why the Republicans now want to deny that Trump is one of them. But he is.

I am not GOP.  
I tend Democrat, & always have.

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/24 "2020-06-07T22:02:54Z")

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I can’t seem to get a cite, but Romney marched with 1000 Christians in DC in support of BLM.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/25 "2020-06-07T22:04:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Quoth **JRDelerious** :
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> (\*though if the convention does happen at all it may be nothing but four consecutive Trump rallies with him speaking every night and Pence introducing him fawningly one night, Melania the next, some RW media darling the other; and not even the usual renomination by acclamation but making every single delegation deliver a paean to his greatness.)

That might be risky… If he goes that route, then he’d have to have _every_ delegation speak. Do you really want to bet that there’s not one single state who’ll reject him? Could Trump stomach the thought of that one dissenting voice at his coronation?

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/26 "2020-06-07T22:06:12Z")

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So, if Bush and Romney came out and endorsed Biden, campaigned with him, did TV ads – would that help or hurt Biden’s chances?

If it would help Biden’s chances, they have a responsibility to do whatever they can to stop Trump.

I don’t think Bush would help, but Romney might, and he basically has a lock on that seat in Utah. How great would it be if he could make Utah blue for one election?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/27 "2020-06-07T22:23:54Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> I can’t seem to get a cite, but Romney marched with 1000 Christians in DC in support of BLM.

[Here you go.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1227086)

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/28 "2020-06-07T22:28:20Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> I can’t seem to get a cite, but Romney marched with 1000 Christians in DC in support of BLM.

Holy shit, [he did](https://utahpolicy.com/index.php/features/today-at-utah-policy/24045-romney-black-lives-matter).

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> Romney told NBC reporter Haley Talbot he was marching because “We need a voice against racism, we need many voices against racism and against brutality. And we need to stand up and say black lives matter.”
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> On Saturday Romney posted a picture on his Twitter account of his father, George, participating in a Civil Rights march in Detroit in the 1960s.
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> > [@](#):
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> > This is my father, George Romney, participating in a Civil Rights march in the Detroit suburbs during the late 1960s—“Force alone will not eliminate riots,” he said. “We must eliminate the problems from which they stem.”

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/29 "2020-06-07T22:42:31Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> I can’t seem to get a cite, but Romney marched with 1000 Christians in DC in support of BLM.

His father is smiling.

> **[How (George) Romney Championed Civil Rights and Challenged His Church](https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/08/how-george-romney-championed-civil-rights-and-challenged-his-church/261073/)**
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> The differences between the father and son politicians show how far the Republican Party has shifted on social issues.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/30 "2020-06-08T04:21:00Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> At this point, it may be more interesting to compile a list of consequential conservatives and republicans who will endorse Trump.

I was thinking about this today; is there any prominent, retired Republican who has come out in favor of Trump? Retired means not being paid to be on TV, so Rudy G doesn’t count. What about some of the members of Bush’s cabinet? Rumsfeld, Cheney?

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/31 "2020-06-08T11:43:49Z")

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Have not heard of any retired GOP member backing Trump. Probably Palin will back him. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/32 "2020-06-08T12:05:37Z")

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Aspenglow, I totally agree. The latest any non-racist _New Yorker_ could (out of forgivable ignorance) say or feel anything good about Trump was 1989, when he put up that ad calling for the government to murder the Central Park Five.

The latest any non-racist _American_ could (out of forgivable ignorance) say or feel anything good about Trump was 2011, when he loudly supported that birtherist dreck.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/33 "2020-06-08T12:35:51Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Have not heard of any retired GOP member backing Trump. Probably Palin will back him. 🙂

Is she even a thing? I thought for sure by now she’d have multiple DUI and domestic disturbance charges to focus her attention.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/34 "2020-06-08T12:41:45Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Is she even a thing? I thought for sure by now she’d have multiple DUI and domestic disturbance charges to focus her attention.

She was on **The Masked Singer** this season. She sang Baby Got Back.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/35 "2020-06-08T12:48:43Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> That might be risky… If he goes that route, then he’d have to have _every_ delegation speak. Do you really want to bet that there’s not one single state who’ll reject him? Could Trump stomach the thought of that one dissenting voice at his coronation?

Kushner/Miller/Trump LLC would just handpick some loyal Trumpetista from each delegation to be the one who speaks and ram it at the RNC, state party bylaws be damned. (No known reliable lackey in the delegation? They’ll carpetbag one in!)

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/36 "2020-06-08T12:49:20Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> She was on **The Masked Singer** this season. She sang Baby Got Back.

Former candidate for VP. And people say Democrats have made bad choices.

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Palin family was at party with drunken brawl but nobody got arrested. Her latest news is she is getting divorced after 30 years. Sounds like it was her husband’s idea to split up.

And Bristol had kid #3 and divorced her medal of honor winning Marine husband after 2 years of marriage.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-and-romney-not-backing-trump/855199/38 "2020-06-08T12:54:45Z")

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Big deal. It’s no stretch, considering Biden has a right-winged voting record, especially on the major votes.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
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> [@MortSahlFan](#):
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> Big deal. It’s no stretch, considering Biden has a right-winged voting record, especially on the major votes.

You’re right. We should all vote for Trump. Biden is the worst. :rolleyes:

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94 crime bill is going to hurt Biden from the left , some may stay home.

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