# Bush 'Angry' at media, second-guessers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946 "2003-04-02T13:18:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nogginhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5e9695/32.png) [@nogginhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nogginhead)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/1 "2003-04-02T13:18:14Z")
Cover story in USA Today, 4/2/03. WTF?? Is it possible that Mr. Bush is so out of touch with reality that he expected _everyone_ to fall into line behind him? More importantly, it seems almost un-American to _resent_ opposition. How juvenile. Later in the story he’s described as ‘infuriated’. Infuriated? The PRESIDENT? I mean, shouldn’t an adult be able to keep it under control? Have a little perspective? ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/2 "2003-04-02T13:22:10Z")
[Strain of Iraq war showing on Bush, those who know him say](http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-04-01-bush-cover_x.htm) ---
**Author:** ![nogginhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5e9695/32.png) [@nogginhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nogginhead)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/3 "2003-04-02T13:23:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \* > \*\*[Strain of Iraq war showing on Bush, those who know him say](http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-04-01-bush-cover_x.htm) \*\* :smack: Thanks, Demostylus ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/4 "2003-04-02T13:27:19Z")
You could read anything you wanted to into that story. Bush is a good guy, Bush is a bad guy. But it doesn’t really contain any information, it’s a “human interest” piece. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/5 "2003-04-02T13:37:41Z")
I think he did, in fact, expect everyone to “fall in line”. It has never failed before, once you start banging the drums and bleating about “supporting our troops”, the public falls into step. Its an emotional thing, almost impossible to resist, like standing for the National Anthem at the ball game. It _always_ works. And it worked again. His approval ratings shot up, as expected. They know this, they count on this. But sooner or later, the bill will come due. And its gonna be a doozy. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/6 "2003-04-02T13:46:20Z")
> [@](#): > > He’s being hard on himself; he gave up sweets just before the war began Get the President a Snickers bar. STAT! That’ll fix him. ---
**Author:** ![Zoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6de8d8/32.png) [@Zoff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoff)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/7 "2003-04-02T14:06:54Z")
Thank god we have another Bush pit thread. Hopefully this will also turn into a lament about how anti-war protestors are labeled as unamerican. I’m opposed to the war and don’t care for Bush, but name me a single fucking president from the modern era who wasn’t pissed at the media at some point. It just seems this rant could be tacked on to one of the other 1,000 posts on generally the same topic. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/8 "2003-04-02T14:07:08Z")
As usual the Onion knows the answer to Curious George’s problem: > **[The Onion | America's Finest News Source.](https://www.theonion.com/)** > > The Onion brings you all of the latest news, stories, photos, videos and more from America's finest news source. > [@](#): > > “The first couple days were really exciting,” Bush said. “I was having all sorts of cool strategy meetings with these high-level military men I don’t usually talk to, and it all felt very historic. But now, it’s gotten to be kind of a monotonous grind. It’s always, ‘The line has advanced this much.’ ‘We need to wait for backup here.’ ‘We’re making good progress, but it’s been complicated by blah blah blah.’ It’s all these tedious, same-sounding details. Can I hear something new for a change, like ‘They surrender,’ or ‘Saddam’s dead’? Something—anything but more stupid reports of sandstorms.” > > Though he is proud of the nation’s military, Bush said he doesn’t understand why it can’t speed things up a bit. > > “I don’t think my dad’s war took this long, and we’ve got much better weapons now,” Bush said. “I talked to him on the phone the other day and, although he didn’t say it, I could tell he was disappointed that I’m not doing it faster than him.” ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/9 "2003-04-02T14:23:08Z")
Well I’ll bite, the media has been driving me nuts about this fucking war too. Armchair generals analyzing events and drawing some preposterous conclusions after 12 days of conflict? Don’t even get me started on Fox, or the fucknuts who are comparing this to Vietnam. ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/10 "2003-04-02T14:33:58Z")
Poor Dubya. Guess he shoulda become leader of a country with a captive press … like Iraq, maybe? Deal with it Shrub! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/11 "2003-04-02T15:31:12Z")
Dear President Bush: You sir, are a insufferable nincompoop and this war stinks like three-day-old sushi. Sorry if my opinion infuriates you. Best regards, El\_Kabong ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/12 "2003-04-02T15:52:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > \*\*Get the President a Snickers bar. STAT! That’ll fix him. \*\* better that than a pretzel 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stofsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@stofsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stofsky)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/13 "2003-04-02T15:54:25Z")
This is what worries me: > [@](#): > > Bush believes he was called by God to lead the nation at this time, says Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a close friend who talks with Bush every day. ---
**Author:** ![elfje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19b73/32.png) [@elfje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfje)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/14 "2003-04-02T16:12:43Z")
“The thought of another assault on the United States horrifies Bush. Aides say he believes history and heaven will judge him by his ability to prevent one.” really? they’re not going to judge him on the fact he was unable to _keep_ peace? that he actually started a war? ugh… :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/15 "2003-04-02T16:24:11Z")
> [@](#): > > Bush believes he was called by God to lead the nation at this time, says Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a close friend who talks with Bush every day. … :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![skankweirdall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@skankweirdall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skankweirdall)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/16 "2003-04-02T16:24:11Z")
Oh fucking bullshit! Do any of you have any idea how hard this must be for him? You all sit here and armchair analyze everything without really knowing dick. How you’d do this and that, and GWB must really be an idiot to think that this war was going to easy, blah, blah, blah. You all are no better than what you claim him to be. Nothing but a fucking mouthpiece for the retarded, limp wristed, weener wranglers of this world. Get your fucking asses elected and stop fucking whining already. Take your fucking bark-o-lounging ass over there and do something better. Talk about fucktards. Yes I think all this fucking whining and the hissy fits that all you liberals are having is having a negative effect on the troops and the war. Yes we should support our troops whole heartedly. My son is over there on a carrier, is yours? Fine if you disagree with the current administrations action. Come up with logical responsible arguements against it then, not some fucking conspiracy, oil, Muslims hate us, Saddam wasn’t dangerous, GWB is an idiot drivel. Have some real hard facts and an alternative solution, besides negotiations, that aren’t going to get even more people killed if you’re so fucking intelligent. Mm’kay? ---
**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/17 "2003-04-02T16:29:06Z")
> [@](#): > > He’s being hard on himself; he gave up sweets just before the war began. Poor foreign policy decisions. Another unfortunate side effect of… hunger. ---
**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/18 "2003-04-02T16:33:41Z")
Oh, and **skankweirdall** , if you want a good background on the objections to this war, specifically how it is being waged, please go to [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=172697), and study it carefully. Being pissed off at a sarcastic Pit thread for not being very informative doesn’t make a tremendous amount of sense, y’know. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/19 "2003-04-02T16:34:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Do any of you have any idea how hard this must be for him? Not HARD ENOUGH ! ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/20 "2003-04-02T16:34:42Z")
But… but… God picked him! How can anybody else get elected and do something different? That would make Baby Jesus cry even more! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946.md?page=2)