# Bush 'Angry' at media, second-guessers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946 "2003-04-02T13:18:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/41 "2003-04-02T17:36:29Z")
You guys are all gleaning this shit from one USA Today article, that doesn’t seem to have one credible source? ---
**Author:** ![mamm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@mamm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mamm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/42 "2003-04-02T17:37:17Z")
skank, is that you? From the FDP? WOA, man, what a change of pace! I almost didn’t recognize you! PS: and, with this useless post, there goes out the window my virginity here in the SDMB, after months of lurking. Be gentle to me! ---
**Author:** ![Aguecheek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Aguecheek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aguecheek)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/43 "2003-04-02T17:41:24Z")
Somebody already covered my extreme apprehension at the “called by God” thing. Bruh. Another one that made me twitch my eyebrows was > [@](#): > > People who know both men say this war isn’t about vengeance. ‘It’s not personal,’ one Bush aide says. Erm…Isn’t this the guy that pronounced “This is the man that tried to kill my Dad!” ---
**Author:** ![skankweirdall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@skankweirdall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skankweirdall)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/44 "2003-04-02T17:42:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mamm \* > \*\*skank, is that you? From the FDP? WOA, man, what a change of pace! I almost didn’t recognize you! > > PS: and, with this useless post, there goes out the window my virginity here in the SDMB, after months of lurking. Be gentle to me! \*\* Sorry I got carried away. What with the strict moderation and control over there I guess I went a bit overboard here. Either way though it is pretty much how I feel. I just wouldn’t have normally expressed it in that way. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![skankweirdall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@skankweirdall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skankweirdall)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/45 "2003-04-02T17:44:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*You guys are all gleaning this shit from one USA Today article, that doesn’t seem to have one credible source? \*\* Alright. I already admitted I got carried away. Sorry. /flame off ---
**Author:** ![mamm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@mamm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mamm)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/46 "2003-04-02T17:46:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by skankweirdall \* > \*\*Sorry I got carried away. What with the strict moderation and control over there I guess I went a bit overboard here. Either way though it is pretty much how I feel. I just wouldn’t have normally expressed it in that way. Sorry. \*\* In defense of skank (knowing him outside the SDMB), I can attest that he is being completely honest above. ---
**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/47 "2003-04-02T17:52:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by skankweirdall \* > \*\*Alright. I already admitted I got carried away. Sorry. > > /flame off \*\* Fair enough. Nice apology. ( **MrVisible** looks over his _SDMB Survival Probability Chart_, and moves **skankweirdall** ’s peg up a couple of notches.) ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/48 "2003-04-02T17:58:47Z")
Don’t forget that Bush knows all too well the heavy burden he bears in this matter: > [@](#): > > “There’s only one person who hugs the mothers and the widows, the wives and the kids upon the death of their loved one. Others hug but having committed the troops, I’ve got an additional responsibility to hug and that’s me and I know what it’s like.”—Washington, D.C., Dec. 11, 2002 I’m a hugger, not a divider. And, on top of that, he gave up Zagnuts, too. The man is sacrificing himself. Lay off, commie pinko bastard weener wranglers. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/49 "2003-04-02T18:02:39Z")
Prince George really has no idea that he’s living in a democracy. He thinks being president should be like being a CEO of an oil company (and he sucked at that just as badly as he sucks at being a fake POTUS). He thinks he’s just supposed to bark out orders and and everybody else is supposed to kiss his ass. He thinks the press is there to spread his own personal propaganda and never question or criticize. He thinks the members of congress are corporate underlings. Look at this: > [@](#): > > **On March 17, before he delivered a 48-hour ultimatum to Saddam, Bush summoned congressional leaders to the White House. They expected a detailed briefing, but the president told them he was notifying them only because he was legally required to do so and then left the room. They were taken aback, and some were annoyed. They were just as surprised by his buoyant mood two days later at another White House meeting.** What an imperious, clueless little prick. This next quote shows his contempt for the American people: > [@](#): > > **At a news conference Thursday at Camp David with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Bush couldn’t contain his annoyance at a reporter who asked if the war might last for months. “However long it takes,” Bush said sharply. "That’s the answer to your question, and that’s what you’ve got to know."** Fuck you, asshole. We’re _paying_ for your fucking war. A lot of us know people who are in jeapordy right now because of your fucking war. Americans have already _died_ for your fucking war, and we have _every fucking right to ask when you’re going to end it._ The “called by God” shit is spooky and serves as further proof that he is indeed the fucking idiot that he is rumored to be, and this is even more scary: > [@](#): > > **"He knows that we’re all here to serve a calling greater than self," Evans says. "That’s what he’s committed his life to do. He understands that he is the one person in the country, in this case really the one person in the world, who has a responsibility to protect and defend freedom."** Messiah complex, anyone? Lighten up, Shrub, you’re not that fucking important. In less than two years you’ll be building a library and watching cartoons all day. > [@](#): > > **skankweirdall** said: > Oh fucking bullshit! Do any of you have any idea how hard this must be for him? You all sit here and armchair analyze everything without really knowing dick. How you’d do this and that, and GWB must really be an idiot to think that this war was going to easy, blah, blah, blah. You all are no better than what you claim him to be. Nothing but a fucking mouthpiece for the retarded, limp wristed, weener wranglers of this world. 1.) As has been pointed out by others, many of us don’t give a FUCK how hard it is for your pwecious widdle pwesident. Fuck him. I hope it eats him alive. I hope he starts drinking again. I hope he gets a hankering for pretzels. His wounds are all self-inflicted. I don’t feel sorry for him, and I revel in any suffering that those mean reporters and columnists are causing him. 2.) What’s with the idiotic, homphobic shit? Did somebody claim that Bush was a mouthpiece for Queer Nation or something? I’d have a lot more respect for him if he was. What some of us claim is that he is a mouthpiece for Bush family corporate cronies, but that’s a different issue. > [@](#): > > Get your fucking asses elected and stop fucking whining already. Shrub never got himself elected, so why should we? > [@](#): > > Yes I think all this fucking whining and the hissy fits that all you liberals are having is having a negative effect on the troops and the war Christ I’m sick of this pathetic little meme. I’m sure the Marines in Iraq are going to be completely demoralized when the hear that Diogenes the Cynic called GWB a “prick” on a message board :rolleyes: What has a more negative effect on the troops, opposing a war or fucking _sending_ them to war? ---
**Author:** ![skankweirdall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@skankweirdall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skankweirdall)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/50 "2003-04-02T18:04:08Z")
Thanks Mamm and MrVisible. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Giraffe \* > \*\ ***skankweirdall** , how could anyone even think of criticizing your intelligence? I mean, really. \*\* Really feel free, I’m not as formally educated as most of you nor am I as well read. I simply don’t have the time. That does not however mean that I am a knuckle dragging halfwit either. I am more than willing to be educated and more than willing to admit if I am wrong. Now I really must be off to work. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/51 "2003-04-02T18:06:17Z")
Summary of the _USA Today_ article: **Bush Upset That Reality Doesn’t Match The Bullshit Fantasy He Was Espousing.** ---
**Author:** ![stofsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@stofsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stofsky)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/52 "2003-04-02T18:15:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*You guys are all gleaning this shit from one USA Today article, that doesn’t seem to have one credible source? \*\* Assuming that Don Evans and Donald Rumsfeld, both of whom are quoted, aren’t credible. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/53 "2003-04-02T18:48:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*Prince George really has no idea that he’s living in a democracy. \*\* You really believe this? Shut the hell up already \*\* > [@](#): > > He thinks being president should be like being a CEO of an oil company (and he sucked at that just as badly as he sucks at being a fake POTUS). \*\* Being a president isn’t as far from running a company as you think. \*\* > [@](#): > > He thinks he’s just supposed to bark out orders and and everybody else is supposed to kiss his ass. \*\* Somehow I don’t get the impression that he’s the man at the top you seem to think he is. \*\* > [@](#): > > He thinks the press is there to spread his own personal propaganda and never question or criticize. He thinks the members of congress are corporate underlings. \*\* Don’t forget Congress threw away their chance a year earlier when they gave him the nod for a war. I’m sure you’ll hold them responsible next elections, hhmmm? \*\* > [@](#): > > This next quote shows his contempt for the American people: > > > [@](#): > > > > At a news conference Thursday at Camp David with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Bush couldn’t contain his annoyance at a reporter who asked if the war might last for months. “However long it takes,” Bush said sharply. “That’s the answer to your question, and that’s what you’ve got to know.” > > Fuck you, asshole. We’re _paying_ for your fucking war. A lot of us know people who are in jeopardy right now because of your fucking war. Americans have already _died_ for your fucking war, and we have _every fucking right to ask when you’re going to end it._ \*\* Well what the fuck is he supposed to say? He’s probably frustrated with that same lame ass question, which has been asked about 50,000 times a day. \*\* > [@](#): > > The “called by God” shit is spooky and serves as further proof that he is indeed the fucking idiot that he is rumored to be, and this is even more scary: > > > [@](#): > > > > “He knows that we’re all here to serve a calling greater than self,” Evans says. “That’s what he’s committed his life to do. He understands that he is the one person in the country, in this case really the one person in the world, who has a responsibility to protect and defend freedom.” > > Messiah complex, anyone? Lighten up, Shrub, you’re not that fucking important. \*\* This is total fucking hearsay, get a grip. \*\* > [@](#): > > In less than two years you’ll be building a library and watching cartoons all day. \*\* Yes, and the next corrupt asshole will be returning favors, and fucking this country up in similar or different ways. \*\* > [@](#): > > 1.) As has been pointed out by others, many of us don’t give a FUCK how hard it is for your pwecious widdle pwesident. Fuck him. I hope it eats him alive. I hope he starts drinking again. I hope he gets a hankering for pretzels. His wounds are all self-inflicted. I don’t feel sorry for him, and I revel in any suffering that those mean reporters and columnists are causing him.\*\* So should I say I will be laughing and toasting when your mother is dying of cancer? Of course I wouldn’t wish that, because I’m fucking civilized. \*\* > [@](#): > > Shrub never got himself elected, so why should we?\*\* Get over that, that was years ago, and stamping your foot ain’t gonna change shit. Go fucking volunteer in Florida so it doesn’t happen again, perhaps you would make more then virtual difference. \*\* > [@](#): > > What has a more negative effect on the troops, opposing a war or fucking _sending_ them to war? \*\* Opposing _them_ once they’ve been sent to a war! I’m not fond of Bush one fucking bit, but you need to chill the fuck out. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/54 "2003-04-02T19:03:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by stofsky \* > \*\*Assuming that Don Evans and Donald Rumsfeld, both of whom are quoted, aren’t credible. \*\* Note to self, read entire article next time. That said, and after reading the entire article, I don’t take Evan’s comment to mean the Bush thinks he’s some demigod or anything put here to save the galaxy. I’m sure certain lefties will disagree. ---
**Author:** ![BickByro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@BickByro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BickByro)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/55 "2003-04-02T19:05:42Z")
If opposing troops once they’ve been sent to war has such a negative effect, **World Eater** , perhaps in the future Bush could _take public opinion into consideration_ before sending our troops to war. It’s not as if he didn’t know lots of people were against this. I can do my job just fine whether I feel I have the support of every person in America; why is it so difficult for the military to do the same? Oh wait, it’s not. Could we maybe stop it with the “support our troops” canard? ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/56 "2003-04-02T19:18:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rjung \* > \*\*Summary of the _USA Today_ article: **Bush Upset That Reality Doesn’t Match The Bullshit Fantasy He Was Espousing.** \*\* _stand up and claps loudly_ Seriously, that could be the summary for the whole fucking Bush presidency thus far. Arrogant prick. ---
**Author:** ![stofsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@stofsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stofsky)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/57 "2003-04-02T19:23:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*Note to self, read entire article next time. > > That said, and after reading the entire article, I don’t take Evan’s comment to mean the Bush thinks he’s some demigod or anything put here to save the galaxy. I’m sure certain lefties will disagree. \*\* Good idea. 😃 That said, I think that believing one is “called by God” to run military action(s) is a sign of some sort of megalomania, as is also evidenced by Bush’s unwillingness to listen to those opposed to him and his inner circle (both foreign and domestic) where this war and its execution are concerned. ---
**Author:** ![stofsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@stofsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stofsky)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/58 "2003-04-02T19:24:11Z")
The foreign and domestic are those opposed, BTW, not the inner circle. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/59 "2003-04-02T19:27:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BickByro \* > \*\*If opposing troops once they’ve been sent to war has such a negative effect, **World Eater** , perhaps in the future Bush could _take public opinion into consideration_ before sending our troops to war. It’s not as if he didn’t know lots of people were against this. \*\* Well I’ve been glazing over posts way too much today, and you are right **Bick** , I read that wrong. \*\* > [@](#): > > I can do my job just fine whether I feel I have the support of every person in America; why is it so difficult for the military to do the same?\*\* Are you serious? Oh wait, it’s not. Could we maybe stop it with the “support our troops” canard? \*\* [/QUOTE] I guess technically you don’t have to, but I would say it’s in poor taste. Why the hell wouldn’t you support the troops? Seriously, what reasons do you have against supporting our soldiers? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2003, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946/60 "2003-04-02T19:34:25Z")
The canard is that opposing the war is the _same_ as opposing the troops. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bush-angry-at-media-second-guessers/165946.md?page=4)